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Camera On Mars Orbiter Snaps Phoenix During Landing
Science Daily ^ | 5-27-2008 | National Aeronautics And Space Administration.

Posted on 05/26/2008 8:20:13 PM PDT by blam

Camera On Mars Orbiter Snaps Phoenix During Landing

NASA's Mars Phoenix Lander can be seen parachuting down to Mars, in this image captured by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. (Credit: NASA/JPL-Calech/University of Arizona)

ScienceDaily (May 27, 2008) — A telescopic camera in orbit around Mars caught a view of NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander suspended from its parachute during the lander's successful arrival at Mars Sunday evening, May 25.

The image from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter marks the first time ever one spacecraft has photographed another one in the act of landing on Mars.

Meanwhile, scientists pored over initial images from Phoenix, the first ever taken from the surface of Mars' polar regions. Phoenix returned information that it was in good health after its first night on Mars, and the Phoenix team sent the spacecraft its to-do list for the day.

"We can see cracks in the troughs that make us think the ice is still modifying the surface," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson. "We see fresh cracks. Cracks can't be old. They would fill in."

Camera pointing for the image from HiRISE used navigational information about Phoenix updated on landing day. The camera team and Phoenix team would not know until the image was sent to Earth whether it had actually caught Phoenix.

"We saw a few other bright spots in the image first, but when we saw the parachute and the lander with the cords connecting them, there was no question," said HiRISE Principal Investigator Alfred McEwen, also of the University of Arizona.

"I'm floored. I'm absolutely floored," said Phoenix Project Manager Barry Goldstein of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. A team analyzing what can be learned from the Phoenix descent through the Martian atmosphere will use the image to reconstruct events.

HiRISE usually points downward. For this image, the pointing was at 62 degrees, nearly two-thirds of the way from straight down to horizontal. To tilt the camera, the whole orbiter must tilt. Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter was already pointed toward the expected descent path of Phoenix to record radio transmissions from Phoenix.

McEwen said, "We've never taken an image at such an oblique angle before."

The landing

From a distance of about 760 kilometers (472 miles) above the surface of the Red Planet, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter pointed its HiRISE obliquely toward Phoenix shortly after it opened its parachute while descending through the Martian atmosphere. The image reveals an apparent 10-meter-wide (30-foot-wide) parachute fully inflated. The bright pixels below the parachute show a dangling Phoenix. The image faintly detects the chords attaching the backshell and parachute. The surroundings look dark, but corresponds to the fully illuminated Martian surface, which is much darker than the parachute and backshell.

Phoenix released its parachute at an altitude of about 12.6 kilometers (7.8 miles) and a velocity of 1.7 times the speed of sound.

The tasks for May 27 for Phoenix include checkouts of some instruments and systems, plus additional imaging of the lander's surroundings.

pted from materials provided by National Aeronautics And Space Administration.


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KEYWORDS: camera; mars; orbiter; phoenix
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To: MindBender26
MindBender - off the top of my head, I believe the Martian atmosphere is only about 25% as dense as the Earth - could be a factor - Mars has less gravity than Earth and no magnetic field, so most of its atmosphere has been ripped away by the Solar Wind
41 posted on 05/26/2008 9:43:44 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: blam

bttt


42 posted on 05/26/2008 9:46:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: blam

Pardon me, but I do not know what the current paradigm is
for the presence of water on Mars and other questions...

1) where did it come from?
2) How long would it take to sublimate into the atmosphere?
3) Was Mars warmer long ago?
4) If Mars has 95% CO2, what would its temp be without
that greenhouse gas?
5) Where did the C02 come from?
6) Is there geothermal heat on Mars?
7) Why are all the planets so different, surely they must
have come from some homogenous planetoid material in the
past? Why didn’t the mass all settle into one or two Super planets
orbiting the Sun?
8) shouldn’t the planets rocks be similar, with the
major differences being the relative differences in heating,
and time at certain temperatures?
9) Could hexagonal shapes be due to other chemicals beside
water? What about hydrogen sulfide? or frozen C02? How about
heated magma, coming to the surface and crystallizing out?
10) Could DNA survive such a thin atmosphere with all the
X, cosmic rays, and solar ionizing radiation?
11) How much C02 escapes the atmosphere on Mars?
Are these questions answered in any astronomy textbooks?

Thanks


43 posted on 05/26/2008 9:51:52 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: zeestephen

This is why once we micro-climate this tundra, hydroponic Mars futures will go through the roof. :)


44 posted on 05/26/2008 9:54:24 PM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?"))
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To: blam

By the way, an incredible shot!....extremely kewl...
temperature aside.


45 posted on 05/26/2008 9:54:51 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: zeestephen

Atmospheric pressure on Mars is just one percent of Earth, but I’m not sure that means density is also one percent - the obvious question, would a parachute even work, billow out, if the density is just one percent of Earth?


46 posted on 05/26/2008 9:55:09 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: txflake

Allow me :-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1309365/posts


47 posted on 05/26/2008 9:55:19 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoeSixPack1

Thank you, Sir!


48 posted on 05/26/2008 10:01:13 PM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?"))
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To: KarlInOhio
“or did their locations/attitude/deployed antennas keep NASA from even trying on previous landings?”

Like the one orbiting over it that took the picture of the landing?

Just a thought.

49 posted on 05/26/2008 10:09:48 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is about the 3 to 5 supremes who will retire in the next 8 years, vote accordingly.)
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To: Getready
“5) Where did the C02 come from?”

HUMMER’s?”

50 posted on 05/26/2008 10:19:01 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is about the 3 to 5 supremes who will retire in the next 8 years, vote accordingly.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Another way-back FR aspect photo from that 04 thread:


51 posted on 05/26/2008 10:20:27 PM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?"))
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To: txflake

Sure looks like decomposing wood to me.
But i remember NASA saying it was a rock formation.

And I’m the easter bunny. :-)


52 posted on 05/26/2008 10:32:38 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoeSixPack1; Lady Jag
Oh mg - lmfao - how time flies


53 posted on 05/26/2008 10:33:05 PM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?"))
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To: Getready
Get Ready - visit Space.com - they have a number of “Answer Blogs” that are the best I've seen on the Web - here goes on a couple of your questions - Mars may have some geothermal heat, but not enough to generate a magnetic field, so it is much less than earth, and possibly zero - stars and planets form in “molecular clouds” which are like nebula clouds except they have the full menu of elements, not just hydrogen and helium - molecular clouds are believed to be the end product of star explosions, also known as supernovas - as a new star forms at the center of a molecular cloud, its heat and gravity causes atoms and molecules to sort themselves out at various radii - planet formation is pure chaos - collisions, nearby stars, the kind of central solar star, can have enormous impact on what kind of planets form and where they orbit - on Earth, living organisms, bacteria really, the size of a human mitochondria, have been found miles below the surface, so for simple life space radiation may not be a problem - life as we understand it requires some level of a liquid medium, like water or methane, so that different kinds of molecules can dissolve, and move, and interact - the basic rationale for the Phoenix Mars probe is to see if ice exists just below the surface, and, once melted, if Martian water holds organic molecules - for some reason, Phoenix has no capability to actually test for life - seems crazy to me - it costs $400 million and took hundreds of people to get it to Mars - why they didn't add a few life detecting instruments is a complete mystery to me
54 posted on 05/26/2008 10:33:11 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: txflake

The railroad tie is very interesting. What is the bright object off in the distance?


55 posted on 05/26/2008 10:39:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye

Bright item in the distance is the Golf Ball hit by Alann Sheppard in 1971..hell of a shot...

http://starryskies.com/The_sky/events/lunar-2003/multimedia.html


56 posted on 05/26/2008 10:56:05 PM PDT by Duaine (Peace is our profession....)
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To: Duaine

Oops...here is the correct link:

http://starryskies.com/The_sky/events/lunar-2003/moon.golf.png


57 posted on 05/26/2008 10:57:50 PM PDT by Duaine (Peace is our profession....)
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To: TigersEye
The railroad tie is very interesting. What is the bright object off in the distance?

Hell, I want to know who wrote the number 2 just below and to the right of the railroad tie.

58 posted on 05/26/2008 10:58:57 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: Getready
Here's a quickie try: 1) where did it come from?

Water came from the same place as on earth...formed while the planet was forming and cooling.

2) How long would it take to sublimate into the atmosphere?

Not sure. It's a long gradual process. Unfortunately, Mars' smaller mass seemed to be unable to entrap most of it.

3) Was Mars warmer long ago?

Absolutely. All the planets were.

4) If Mars has 95% CO2, what would its temp be without that greenhouse gas?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas according to much recent thinking. Besides, the atmosphere of Mars is very thin. Anyway presumed greenhouse effect would then be very small.

5) Where did the C02 come from?

Same place the water did.

6) Is there geothermal heat on Mars?

Possibly but not as much as Earth

7) Why are all the planets so different, surely they must have come from some homogenous planetoid material in the past? Why didn’t the mass all settle into one or two Super planets orbiting the Sun?

Great question that requires a long answer. All the planets formed from the same accretion disk but at different distances from the Sun. That meant different amounts of forces acting on them so different types of planets. http://stardate.org/resources/ssguide/planet_form.html
There are some good documentaries on Science channel.

8) shouldn’t the planets rocks be similar, with the major differences being the relative differences in heating, and time at certain temperatures?

In a way, they are. The rovers found very similar rock formations and types.

9) Could hexagonal shapes be due to other chemicals beside water? What about hydrogen sulfide? or frozen C02? How about heated magma, coming to the surface and crystallizing out?

Maybe. But water obviously does it. When you hear hoof-beats, think horses not zebras.

10) Could DNA survive such a thin atmosphere with all the X, cosmic rays, and solar ionizing radiation?

Possibly. After all, we've found dinosaur dna fragments.

11) How much C02 escapes the atmosphere on Mars?

Don't don't know but Mars is 1/3 the mass of Earth so it is easier for light gasses to escape.

Are these questions answered in any astronomy textbooks?

Probably. :-)

59 posted on 05/26/2008 11:02:23 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus

bump


60 posted on 05/26/2008 11:23:05 PM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?"))
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