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FLDS hearings: Texas' case weakens as moms turn out adults
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | May 21, 2008 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 05/21/2008 5:50:14 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: Saundra Duffy
There’s a lot of hypocrisy going around this story. Have you noticed?

Oh yeah, I've noticed.

My thing is, is if children are being molested, the perpetrators need to be dealt with; harshly.

However, that possibility does NOT allow Texas CPS to do any d@mn thing it wants to.

41 posted on 05/21/2008 6:56:18 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: CGTRWK

“If the choices are Mormons having a herd of women or giving the misanthropists at CPS a free pass to break families on an unsubstantiated tip and worry about the details later ... me, I’ll live with the Mormons.”

You made me laugh. Thanks. (That anti-Mormon comment was oh so telling.)


42 posted on 05/21/2008 6:56:51 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
As dumb as the women might seem the ones with their hair braided by others and then piled high are regular "princesses of the realm" in that group. Their words carry considerable authority.

None of us are fooled by the "sweety" business, and we know you aren't!

43 posted on 05/21/2008 6:57:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pissant
I have not been following it closely.

Do some reading up before deciding. No offense to freepers here but the facts on these threads are dependent on the name of your horse. IMHOOC

44 posted on 05/21/2008 7:01:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: muawiyah

I was at work today and caught a piece of “breaking” about CPS believing more children at the ranch and were denied access???? You hear anything about that?


45 posted on 05/21/2008 7:03:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: pissant

No search warrant: http://www.captivefldschildren.org/Videos.php?VID=3


46 posted on 05/21/2008 7:03:25 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
family members get first shot at assuming responsibility for the kids.

Something we agree on. This whole case is sad and for the sake of the children, I hope all ends well. That would mean that if abuse is proven that the abusers are punished. If there are responsible non abusing parents, that they get their kids back.

let's pray for all those involved and that justice is served.

47 posted on 05/21/2008 7:04:10 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: clee1

I realize this was put out by FLDS but it shows the rifles of the swat teams and law enforcement who rounded up all the women and children at the ranch that day. I am looking for a picture of the “armored personnel carrier” (aka tank).

http://www.captivefldschildren.org/Videos.php?VID=5


48 posted on 05/21/2008 7:05:23 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: muawiyah

According to the the article, she gave her DL to CPS on the first day. They chose to disbelieve her then, but suddenly believe her now. What changed?

Not a dang thing but the exposure to lawsuits. What CPS did rises to the level of kidnapping, felony style.


49 posted on 05/21/2008 7:06:20 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: muawiyah

Mormonazi:
MOR-MAN-NOT-SEE

Noun;

People obsessed with Mormons, Utah, Polygamy,...

The giving up of rational thought,rule of evidenciary law and embracement of fascist tenancies in an effort to stamp out a religion they see as a cult.

Use in sentences:

“The mormonazi accused me of being a child rape supporter for questioning the validity of a search warrant”

“The mormonazi asked if I was a Mormon after I questioned the perminate removal of over 400 children without proof of abuse of over 400 children”

Also see: “the ends justifies the means.”

Tenancies:

Barking attacks.

Questions of religious affiliation.

Accusations of child rape support.

Refusal to see future trends of same treatment of other groups.

Quoting scripture.

Speaking in tongues.

Assertions of “common knowledge” (also see Salem witch trials)


50 posted on 05/21/2008 7:08:02 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: muawiyah

Texas wanted these girls and they got ‘em:

http://www.captivefldschildren.org/Videos.php?VID=2


51 posted on 05/21/2008 7:08:05 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

There was no “horrible abuse” in the unsigned reports from the Mental Health/Mental Retardation workers. At worst, the MHMR workers thought the CPS workers were “high handed and rude.” The MHMR workers seemed horrified that CPS took notes!


52 posted on 05/21/2008 7:10:59 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: hocndoc

Please see #45. I saw this but now that I’m home I can’t find anything about it on the news. Did you hear anything?


53 posted on 05/21/2008 7:15:43 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: stockpirate

I haven’t seen any of the pro-CPS folks who think this is a problem. But at least if you complain about adults being illegally incarcerated against their will without criminal charges, they won’t call you a child abuse apologist.


54 posted on 05/21/2008 7:16:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: clee1

THIS VIDEO SHOWS THE TANK: I call it a tank but FReepers chastised me and said it was a pleasant little vehicle and the male children loved it and were invited to get inside the play in there. This video shows the “armored personnel carrier”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN_QG1UqHLs&feature=related


55 posted on 05/21/2008 7:16:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

You are exactly correct.


56 posted on 05/21/2008 7:17:58 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: muawiyah
They’ve lied about their own names, their ages, who their kids are, everything.

Do you have proof of that? Something other than a statement from CPS -- now that it's clear the CPS can't be trusted to tell the truth.

57 posted on 05/21/2008 7:18:11 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: clee1

I notice you say, “but. . . “

If it’s indefensible, there should be no “but” and you shouldn’t be so quick to defend organized child sexual abuse.

We can’t wait for the time that delays and motions and what you see as “due process” in criminal trials when we’re dealing with child abuse. Sure: let’s wait ‘till another girl is “spiritually joined.” while the leaders are tried and found guilty.

The problem is the systematic lies and confusion encountered by CPS as to who is what age, who is who -— Who actually makes up the families -— combined with the 14 year old who is pregnant, the girl who asks one of the men what her age is, the other kids who don’t seem to know how old they are, who their fathers are, or their own names.


58 posted on 05/21/2008 7:19:28 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: muawiyah

Texas Baptists come to rescue FLDS children:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN_QG1UqHLs&feature=related

Are you proud? Please take note of the tank, oh excuse me, “armored personnel carrier”.


59 posted on 05/21/2008 7:21:19 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Crim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN_QG1UqHLs&feature=related

Have you see this?


60 posted on 05/21/2008 7:23:16 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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