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To: brytlea

“And, please explain (I’ve asked you this before) how the state could investigate the case and get evidence to charge the men without taking the kids into custody, especially when at least many of the women were lying.”

That is the state’s problem. They can’t break constitutional law because they have a hunch. You can’t deprive people of their constitutional rights. Constitutional rights trump everything; otherwise, tear it up and none of us have any rights.

If this is allowed to stand, none of us are safe in our homes because someone may make a false report about us and katy bar the door!

Remember, this whole mess got started with a false report. You can’t just lump an entire community into one big pot and condemn them all over a false report. As I recall, there was one supposed teenage girl (the hoax) who accused one FLDS man of abusing her. Now, why didn’t they look for that one man and leave everyone else alone?

I don’t like the way Jehovah’s Witnesses raise their kids and I don’t like the way Christian Scientists raise their kids - you know withholding of blood transufions and medical care. Kids have died, you know. Suppose we go round up all the children born in the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Christian Scientists cults - we will do it “for the children”.

I’m scared to live in a country where the authorities have this much power.

It’s a very slippery slope.


44 posted on 05/15/2008 8:57:40 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I don’t think the slope is nearly as slippery as you make it out to be. And it will remain to be seen if their Constitutional rights were violated (I don’t think they were). So, are you always against removing children from apparent abuse situations?
susie


45 posted on 05/15/2008 9:01:28 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Saundra Duffy

adults can and do refuse blood. In an ER a judge can decide for the child. It happens a lot.


46 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:32 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Saundra Duffy
...because they have a hunch.

Hunch? That's your word. In fact, you don't know what the investigators saw, found, when they scoured the FLDS compound. We have no idea what information they're getting from those reams of paperwork they confiscated.

Aside from that, so much testimony about what actually goes on in the "secret society" is now getting the attention it deserves, even if it's too late in coming.

Despite the fact that posters on this and other threads have given you sensible answers to your claims, you keep repeating and repeating the same thing.

The FLDS children WERE NOT arrested. Texas had NO intention to punish them. They were removed from a home where Texas law enforcement obviously had sufficient reason to believe child abuse occurred. If there is credible reason to believe that any child is suffering from abuse in the home, authorities can hardly be expected to leave any other children there.

Do you totally dispute the testimonies and evidence that Warren Jeffs, for one, claims complete control over the lives of everyone in this sect? I've read plenty on the subject and I do believe it. The Constitution guarantees our freedoms but Jeffs, for one, takes it away. That, in itself, is a crime IMO.

65 posted on 05/15/2008 11:00:28 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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