Posted on 05/15/2008 3:25:21 PM PDT by blam
“So finally we have people agreeing that yes, a certain people did come over the land bridge. What we didn’t know is that it just so happens there were people already here when they did it. It made us all realize just how little we knew and know about America’s past.”
Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research, May Explain Disappearance of Ancient People
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (More) (Carolina Bays)
Whenever some liberal tries to rip into me for daring to question ‘settled science’ regarding Global Warming, I just mention the chilling effect that the Clovis First theory had on archaeology for decades. And that scientists who questioned that theory were treated as crackpots and were ostracized.
Back in the day... when I was a Pleistocene geologist, I was told that anytime that I ran across human artifacts in sediments, it was 13.5 k bp or later. Ignore it and move on. I wonder if I passed up on a 50 k b.p. site along the way.
Could have.
"Our knowledge of the hundred-thousand-years of human prehistory in the Americas has grown in spite of false starts, disciplinary straitjackets, and occasional personal attacks of those who have challenged prevailing notions. George F. Carter was for forty years been at the forefront of the controversy over the age of American antiquity. Here he tells the dual story of that controversy and the fascinating unraveling of the record of human presence in the Americas."
The other thing here I find fascinating is the bolide / meteor impact in / over Canada. We are finding ever more evidence that our history has been effected by catastrophic events, be they volcanos or impactors from the sky.
Interesting article, thanks for posting (former SC-Beaufort resident).
Bump to read later
http://www.joebobbriggs.com/vegasguy/vg20010924.html . The guy who manages the casino is quoted here: "One reason he's been held back so far is that, when they broke ground for the hotel, Indian artifacts were discovered, leading to what has now become the largest archeological dig in the United States. "It cost $16 million to do the dig," he says amiably, "and we paid for it. Apparently this area was originally a Native American market, where the Indians gathered to trade. They're finding a lot of chirt stone, which was used to fashion tools. Other artifacts."
This is not only a major regional center, there have been numerous informed estimates made of how many points and other items there are in the area and each time it goes up another few million. This was apparently a "flint factory". My own guess is that this is the secret the Shawnee at the Falls on the Ohio used to stay rich ~ they traded their points all over the continent.
So, how about other "flint factories"? Are there any besides this one we don't know about and how old are they? How old is this one? Currently it's an active archaeological site, and my guess is they are going to keep digging and it's all the way down to the same sort of dates we see in the above article.
BTW, this site was officially discovered some time in the 1990s. I knew about it (more or less) from a cousin who regularly collected in the area.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."These folks are going about it the right way. They are working with the top archaeologists and other specialists in the country, and they are doing solid science in an effort to document their claim.
Personally, I hope they can document 50,000 years. That would be a major boon to archaeological research in the US! Just think of all the new puzzles for us to work out.
It may be a repeat for you, but I found it fascinating. I really enjoy your posts.
Thanks. I'm glad you do.
And, in some archaeological circles, they are still treated that way...
The SUBJECT line of my message was, "How to rouse the rabble..." '-)
Hee, hee.
the Carolina Bays
and -- possibly -- a sudden decline of Clovis culture -- to be intriguing.
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: How a Stone-Age Comet Changed the Course of World Culture
One of the authors in this book explained that the Carolina Bays may have been formed by massive chunks of ice crashing back to earth after having been blasted by a comet/asteroid/etc.
Ancient Atomic Warfare - Religious texts and geological evidence
New York Herald Tribune on February 16, 1947 | Ivan T. Sanderson
Posted on 07/22/2002 5:01:00 PM EDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/720501/posts
Supernova debris found on Earth
News@Nature.com | 02 November 2004 | Mark Peplow
Posted on 11/24/2004 4:22:08 PM EST by Phsstpok
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287848/posts
Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | 09/28/05 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/05/2005 2:47:27 AM EDT by planetesimal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1496844/posts
Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | Sept. 28, 2005 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/17/2005 11:57:32 AM EDT by Fzob
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1503957/posts
Scientist: Comets Blasted Early Americans
ap on Yahoo | 10/28/05 | Meg Kinnard - ap
Posted on 10/28/2005 6:33:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1511330/posts
Terrestrial Evidence of a Nuclear Catastrophe in Paleoindian Times
Mammoth Trumpet | March 2001 | Firestone/Topping
Posted on 07/24/2006 3:03:03 AM EDT by ForGod’sSake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1671134/posts
Did comet start deadly cold snap?
Canada.com | Monday, May 14, 2007 | Margaret Munro
Posted on 05/16/2007 6:00:33 PM EDT by Mike Darancette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834769/posts
Diamonds tell tale of comet that killed off the cavemen
Guardian | 5-20-07 | Robin McKie
Posted on 05/20/2007 7:50:33 PM EDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836898/posts
Catastrophic Comet Chilled and Killed Ice Age Beasts (and Clovis people)
Live Science | 05/21/07 | Jeanna Bryner
Posted on 05/22/2007 1:16:48 AM EDT by TigerLikesRooster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837610/posts
Oregon Researchers Involved In New Clovis-Age Impact Theory (More)
Eureka Alert
Posted on 05/23/2007 5:30:19 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838660/posts
Comet May Have Doomed Mammoths
Red Orbit | 5-26-07 | Betsy Mason
Posted on 05/26/2007 9:12:53 AM EDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840136/posts
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (More) (Carolina Bays)
Science News | 6-1-2007 | Sid Perkins
Posted on 06/02/2007 6:14:23 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843831/posts
Climate alarmists lose another piece of evidence
enterstageright | 6/11/2007 | Dennis T. Avery
Posted on 06/11/2007 1:11:38 PM EDT by Neville72
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1848385/posts
Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research,
May Explain Disappearance of Ancient People
University of South Carolina(USC News) | June 28, 2007 | Staff
Posted on 08/04/2007 2:29:34 AM EDT by ForGod’sSake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1876220/posts
NSF Press Release:
Comet May Have Exploded Over North America 13,000 Years Ago
National Science Foundation Press Release | August 14, 2007 | Cheryl Dybas, NSF
Posted on 08/15/2007 8:32:04 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1881784/posts
Research Team Says Extraterrestrial Impact To Blame For Ice Age Extinctions (More)
Eureka Alert | Northern Arizona University - Lisa Nelson
Posted on 09/25/2007 3:58:19 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1902003/posts
Cosmic blast may have killed off megafauna
Scientists say early humans doomed, too
Boston Globe | September 27, 2007 | Colin Nickerson
Posted on 09/25/2007 9:45:11 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902154/posts
Cosmic blast may have killed off megafauna
Scientists say early humans doomed, too
Boston Globe | September 25, 2007 | Colin Nickerson
Posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:48 AM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902361/posts
Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years ago
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
October 9, 2007, Vol. 104 | September 27, 2007 | R. B. Firestone, et. al.
Posted on 09/30/2007 1:14:28 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1904474/posts
The End of Eden: The Comet That Changed Civilization
amazon | Oct. 8, 2007
Posted on 10/09/2007 2:47:23 AM EDT by doug from upland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1908525/posts
Did Comets Cause Ancient American Extinctions?
National Geographic News | 5-6-2008 | Anne Casselman
Posted on 05/07/2008 6:40:10 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2012792/posts
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith
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