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To: purpleraine
Well your old testament beliefs are not mine. If you think God is going to destroy us for immorality after all our nation has done for the world, then perhaps you shouldn't stand near me when the lightening starts.

My beliefs are New Testament beliefs. Those who believe that God changed in between Testaments are using very bad theology. BTW, why were you unwilling to answer the question with a straight answer?

I often pray that people who want to impose their religious beliefs on the country do not get into power. I believe that is a foundational premise of our country.

I think you should start adding a pray that you will be more humble, because it appears you believe that anyone who disagrees with you on gay marriage must be a theocrat, has endorsed forced conversion, is "squirming" and has no clue about basic human rights. Seriously, that's breathtakingly arrogant.

I am talking about your religious belief and now you say it's not a religious belief. Make up your mind and quit squirming.

I asked you about your religious beliefs. Then I asked about a subject that does not require a certain religious belief to back up a position. That's not squirming, that's a radical technique called "asking two different questions."

Your analogies don't apply and you can't understand the basic principle of right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Maybe you should live in a theocracy.

Ah, so my position is the same position that has been held by those with religious views spanning a spectrum from Catholicism to atheism and by governments from fascist states to the world's greatest democracies, and yet I could only hold this position if I want to trash the Constitution and impose a Christian theocracy. Sure you want to make that assertion?

As for the pursuit of happiness, now that our nation long ago moved from the brick house to the stick house, it's really amusing to watch people say that we need to move to the straw house to avoid dangerous opppression, and attack any little pigs who point out that it might not be that sturdy. I'm sure you'll be happy in your house of straw.

257 posted on 05/15/2008 4:12:28 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I was wondering in the new testament where God destroyed an immoral nation or tribe.

Secondly, you never answered my position that I believe we are more moral now than in the past. You're working so hard on defense, you forgot 50% of the game. I guess you're wearing me out by keeping my offense on the field.

It is sanctimonius for you to tell me what to pray for.

I understand your religious views. I am pointing out that it's is wrong for you to try and impose them on everyone and for you to tell me how things have been for thousands of years. I answered that before. Tell it to women and slaves and evryone else who had their rights repressed.

274 posted on 05/15/2008 5:01:49 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Mr. Silverback
The idea that God wouldn't punish anyone because they do good deeds is a very dangerous theology to hold to. It would belike saying my wife wouldn't leave me for cheating on her, because I buy her expensive jewlery and provide for her as well. It comes across as an insult.

I am not saying God is going to strike down and pour out his wrath on California any time soon, but he would be well within his right to do so.

I am glad to see other people don't buy into this idea that we can erase the bad by braging about all the good we have done.

438 posted on 05/15/2008 11:53:46 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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