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even if it means forcing it on us

How is it being forced on you? Unless somebody attempts to rape you, it's not being forced on you.

Do you realize how silly you sound when you use that load in a discussion of gay marriage? Here's a clue, sparky, it used to be ILLEGAL for these people to even hook up. Then we decided that we couldn't legislate morality, and the next thing you know we've got people teaching kids fisting in the schools.

Barry Goldwater didn't believe in legislating morality. Neither did Ronald Reagan. Neither does anybody who's actually a conservative. As far as the schools go, you're again not looking at the source of the problem, which is that we allowed government schools to start teaching sex education in the first place.

Lastly, the idea that we can't legislate reality is the biggest pile of horsecrap in politics. We do it all the time. Is stealing immoral? Cheating on your taxes? Beating your wife? Abusing a child? Flashing your groin at passersby? The only question is who's morality will be the one guiding the legislation.

People's rights and property still have to be protected. This is implicit in the statement that government shouldn't enforce morality. With the exception of cheating on your taxes (which I don't necessarily consider immoral - just illegal), these are all things that harm another person.

How is it being forced on you? Unless somebody attempts to rape you, it's not being forced on you.

I didn't say homosexuality was being forced on anyone, I said that gay marriage is being forced on us. Really, you don't think acceptance is being forced when a court legislates from the bench and overrides 61% of the electorate?

Barry Goldwater didn't believe in legislating morality. Neither did Ronald Reagan.

Really...because Ronald Reagan was a pro-lifer. Or is that different? Also, I must have missed those times that Reagan and Goldwater endorsed major, unnecessary changes to the social fabric in the name of libertarianism.

Neither does anybody who's actually a conservative.

Here's a tip: The first sign you're off course as a conservative is that you become one of those people who tells other people they aren't real conservatives because they don't agree with you on one or two issues.

People's rights and property still have to be protected. This is implicit in the statement that government shouldn't enforce morality.

Whoa, wait a minute. Who's rights are damaged by the flasher?

As for people's rights and property being protected, meet Leo Childs, Scott Brockie, Ake Green, Scott Savage, Crystal Dixon, and Ene Kiildi.

Go on feeding the alligator. Maybe it will eat you last.