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Ron Paul Hopes to Crash McCain's Party
ABC News ^ | 5/13/08 | Marcus Barum

Posted on 05/14/2008 8:51:18 PM PDT by advance_copy

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To: advance_copy
RON PAUL'S APPROVAL RATING KEEPS RISING


281 posted on 05/15/2008 7:33:54 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Patrick1
John McCain believes the United States of America is worth defending and Barry Obama doesn’t.

Open borders McQueeg believes no such thing. Where do you people come up with this garbage? Blackbird.

282 posted on 05/15/2008 7:34:15 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (2008 Election: Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest!)
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To: allmost
The Ron Paul advocates still dwell here on FR.

Being that FR is friends with Paul's Republican Liberty Caucus and that Jim has alllowed them t host their forum here on FR, that's not a huge surprise.

283 posted on 05/15/2008 7:36:08 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: Eva
I’m not a Ron Paul fan, but I’m not voting for McCain, either. I can’t. We are in a war for private property rights in my part of Washington State.

You might want to read this speech about the Kelo decision.

And look at who voted for Kelo - understand that Obama or Hillary will give us a LOT more Ginsburgs, not Scalias, Thomases, or even Rehnquists.

284 posted on 05/15/2008 7:37:08 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: blackbart.223
Ron Paul is not going to make dent like it or not.

But rest assured, all the McCain fanboys will be bitching and moaning about "those damned Paulistinians costing the election" after Obama destroys him in November.

285 posted on 05/15/2008 7:37:47 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: Stevieboy
I’ve been here for seven years and have loved the fight against socialism and liberalism, but FR is no longer any good.

Quit bitching. All because there is a small cadre of McCain bootlickers being obnoxious, FR is still hands-down the best conservative site on the Internet.

286 posted on 05/15/2008 7:40:04 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

It’s not that kind of taking, it is controlling the use of the property, while not actually taking it over. Then on top of controlling the use, they force the property owner to prove that they are not ignoring the restrictions by paying hundreds of dollars to an inspector every year, who comes out and verifies that the property owner is in compliance. When the property owner threatens to take them to court, they tell you to go ahead because they have more lawyers than you do and it will cost you more to go to court than to pay the inspector.


287 posted on 05/15/2008 7:42:03 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"You kicked the conservatives to the curb and nominated your RINO, now all you gotta do is get him elected." I'm standing with JimRob, on this one.

Ditto. I only wish that fit into a tagline.

288 posted on 05/15/2008 7:43:44 AM PDT by jmc813 ("You kicked the conservatives to the curb and nominated your RINO, now all you gotta do is get him e)
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To: jmc813
The irony of FR's biggest ChiCom defender posting this is flooring me.

I suppose the irony that - when written - the signers of the Declaration did not have those Rights recognized by the State to which they belonged is also lost on you?

I see and support the change that is happening in China, that is bringing them towards the truth of those statements. What are you doing to ensure that your fellow man - ALL created equal - are reaping the benefits of those unalienable Rights, or even know they have such Rights?

I suppose you thought we should not have been involved in either World War; in the Cold War; any trade agreement? We should not even have relations with Germany, or the UK, or France. After all, we're just working with people without those Creator-endowed Rights (and at various times they've actively attempted via armed action to remove those Rights from us)!

I guess the Apostle Paul was an idiot for preaching to the Romans. Jesus wasted his time among the sinners!

What better way to bring the truth of those Rights to a society than to work with them, side by side, to help them move their society towards recognition of those Rights. Show them the results of the fruits of their labors, the fruits of my labors, and how those societies consider each person.

By no means is China as close to those ideals as the US; far from it! But they are infinitely better and more open - politically, socially, and economically - than they were 15 years ago. Progress has been made, and will continue to be made because some people will show them AND HELP THEM realise their Rights, and the benefits of same said rights.

Then there's the xenophobes who oppose anyone else achieving those same Rights because they're afraid that freedom may let someone else beat them in the game of life. THAT is a true twisting of the Declaration of Independence...

289 posted on 05/15/2008 7:47:28 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: advance_copy


FReepers, the only candidate who can defeat Obama is John McCain. This is a fact. Support McCain for President because: 1. His appointments to the courts will be better than Obama's 2. He will not raise taxes as Obama will do. 3. He will not abandon the mission in our war against terrorists 4. He is committed to reducing spending and eliminating earmarks We must support John McCain because, if we don't, an anti-American international socialist will become President of the United States.


Bull$hit! McCain will do what he always does, side with the Dems. I wished he would have joined them back in 2004 like he planned to. The best thing that can happen at this point is for him to get his @$$ handed to him in so we can be rid of him.
290 posted on 05/15/2008 7:54:35 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: advance_copy
I hope you like paying more taxes. Because that’s what you will do if McCain does not beat Obama.

And I hope you like paying more taxes because if any of these people (particularly McCain in this case) win we will have more foreign wars and interventionism which will cost the feds so much money to carry out that it will in-and-of itself be a built-in future tax hike.

Anybody who says he isn't for taxes and simultaneously is for escalation of tensions with Iran, Syria or any of the other countries on the president's to-do list is disingenuous or uninformed. Spending increases CREATE tax increases. Simple as that.

291 posted on 05/15/2008 7:56:16 AM PDT by MarcoPolo (Say yes to Dr. No!)
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To: Eva
I’m not a Ron Paul fan, but I’m not voting for McCain, either. I can’t.

Bob Barr might be worth your consideration.

292 posted on 05/15/2008 7:56:33 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: BlackbirdSST
Open borders McQueeg believes no such thing. Where do you people come up with this garbage? Blackbird.

Sure, "Open Borders" despite voting to close them.

Where do you people come up with your garbage? Because the FACT is irrefutable - McCain VOTED FOR STRONGER BORDERS.

293 posted on 05/15/2008 7:57:20 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: mathluv

Oh, I do support conservative members of Congress (House). Unfortunately, the only representation in the Senate that we have in CA are two of the most notorious Liberals (Boxer and Feinstein). I don’t see much hope in CA for a conservative Senator anytime in the near (or far) future.


294 posted on 05/15/2008 7:59:57 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Eva
It’s not that kind of taking, it is controlling the use of the property, while not actually taking it over. Then on top of controlling the use, they force the property owner to prove that they are not ignoring the restrictions by paying hundreds of dollars to an inspector every year, who comes out and verifies that the property owner is in compliance.

Sure, so McCain's call to deal with environmental issue with free market principles - founded on the unalienable Rights - should put your mind at ease.

295 posted on 05/15/2008 8:04:09 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: SoCalPol

Yes, I’m getting rather tired of the bloviating of these blow-hards on this thread who do nothing but flame people and demonstrate their lack of intelligence. I’m getting the sense that FR has been seriously infiltrated by a large number of DU and KOS morons.


296 posted on 05/15/2008 8:04:21 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: roamer_1

Ah, so no public servant in this history of this country has every voted against a bad bill? Pull your head out.


297 posted on 05/15/2008 8:06:01 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You live in WA, you should be aware that this fascism is coming to your county. They are using Whatcom County as a test case for the water issue, center the whole legal case on what happens in Whatcom County. The restrictions on rural property are already in force in the counties around Seattle. I’ve heard that in Pierce County, they make the farmers map every cow pile and estimate it’s size and turn in a map weekly.


298 posted on 05/15/2008 8:07:53 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

So, you want people in Congress who have zero ability to stand up for what they believe in? No one who will take a principled stand? Just keep on doing business as usual? I get it, you enjoy liberalism.


299 posted on 05/15/2008 8:09:34 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

No, it doesn’t because it give credibility to the anthropogenic global warming.


300 posted on 05/15/2008 8:10:08 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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