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China Earthquake: Exodus Begins From Sichuan
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-14-2008 | Richard Spencer

Posted on 05/14/2008 4:29:09 PM PDT by blam

China earthquake: Exodus begins from Sichuan

By Richard Spencer in Hanwang Town, Sichuan Province
Last Updated: 11:05PM BST 14/05/2008

Tens of thousands of people have poured down from the mountainsides of Sichuan searching for food and water as rescuers evacuated towns where more than 40,000 people are dead, buried or missing. Rescue teams are digging through rubble, trying to reach survivors of a powerful earthquake in China.

Helicopters began to airlift residents out of the villages of Wenchuan county at the epicentre of the earthquake which struck China on Monday, while others walked for hours into the valleys and plains to the south and east. The county is still cut off from land-based relief by landslides.

But the exodus might yet be heading into more danger, with emergency workers attempting to plug gaps in two major dams.

The Zipingpu dam, above the city of Dujiangyan with its population of 600,000, was said at one stage to be in an "extremely dangerous state" with cracks more than four inches wide appearing in its face, though the water resources ministry later said on its website that it was stable for the time being.

Tulong dam, further north on the Min river, was said by officials to be near collapse, something which would have a knock-on effect on a series of dams and power stations further downstream.

Almost 400 dams altogether were said to have been affected by Monday's earthquake – the wet and mountainous province is criss-crossed by some of China's biggest and fastest-flowing rivers.

While some dams, like Zipingpu, are modern, others were built when construction standards were lower.

All day long, the 100,000 troops now assigned to the rescue effort grappled with the wreckage of major cities, towns and villages across a wide area.

There were some successes, including the rescue of a three-year-old girl in Beichuan, one of the worst-affected towns, and an eight-months pregnant woman trapped under an apartment block in Dujiangyan.

But by the evening the official death toll stood at nearly 15,000, with another 25,000 reported buried and more unaccounted for.

In Wenchuan, a paramilitary officer told local television that a third of houses had been destroyed and 90 per cent damaged.

Meanwhile, the survivors were starting to look ever more desperately for supplies, walking for hours out of their mountain villages to seek help.

"There is nothing left of my village," said Fu Yuanming, who had walked for 10 hours from Village Number 3 of Qingping district near the epicentre to Hanwang town. "We need help. Our people have nothing to eat, they have nothing to drink."

He said a landslide had blocked the river above the village, turning into a reservoir that was about to burst.

Along all the roads in the region, makeshift camps have been set up. Residents of the towns lined up patiently as fire engines served out buckets of water; in the villages, locals ran out into the road to forcibly stop trucks and beg for supplies of noodles and biscuits.

"Someone had better set up relief coordination, or the people will resort to robbery," said one man in the village of Wudu.

More than 10,000 people were crowded into the sports stadium in the city of Mianyang, Sichuan's second biggest city and an important base for China's high-tec industry. Many had walked from Beichuan.

Ralph Johnson, a British teacher who lives in the city and runs a pub there, said that almost a million people were now spending their days on the streets. That included the city's 800,000 population, many of whom were like him unable to return to their damaged flats, and thousands more refugees.

He was also waiting to hear news of the mountain primary school for which his regulars have raised funds, and which feeds a secondary school known to have collapsed with up to 1,000 dead.

"We have not heard anything from the school," he said.

A British embassy rapid response unit began work in the provincial capital Chengdu to help coordinate the search for tourists trapped in the region. Nineteen members of a Kuoni tour party that were on their way to the Wolong giant panda reserve near Wenchuan when the earthquake hit were still unaccounted for last night.

There were unconfirmed reports that a group of 50 tourists had been located at the reserve, and 12 Americans who had been missing spoke to Worldwide Fund for Nature officials by satellite phone.

But Sir William Ehrman, the British ambassador, told The Daily Telegraph that there had still been no contact with the British group.

"We are extremely concerned," he said. "We are trying all we can to locate those who are unaccounted for."


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KEYWORDS: china; chinaquake; earthquake; exodus; sichuan
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To: txflake; Admin Moderator
Another one.
Meh... don't get her ZOTTED. DU'ers sure. We deal with them all the time. Arguing with real live Chinese folks on FR is a pretty rare opportunity.
61 posted on 05/14/2008 11:35:04 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu
It would be tiring to take it point by point but I will if you want to. It's all right there. Such as...

The Tibetan view of Tibetan-Manchu relations is that:

"The Manchu, or Qing, Empire became Tibet's overlord in 1720 when it installed the Seventh Dalai Lama, but this relationship was not rigorously defined and the Manchu made no effort to absorb Tibet as a province. Tibetans paid no taxes to the Manchu, as Mongolia, which is independent today, did. Tibet also maintained its legal and administrative systems with its own officials, while Chinese and Manchu authorities directly ruled Mongolia. As early as 1792, the Manchu emperor Qianlong knew that the Dalai Lama and his ministers were "able to do whatever they wished in the administration of Tibetan affairs, ignoring . . . the incompetent [Manchu] officials" who were theoretically supposed to govern Tibet. This nebulous relationship grew even more unclear throughout the nineteenth century because of threats the Manchu faced everywhere."[102]


62 posted on 05/14/2008 11:38:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: ketsu
Arguing with real live Chinese folks on FR is a pretty rare opportunity.

No it's not. I have gotten half a dozen zotted over the years and other ChiCom troll hunters have done even better. This one just isn't a professional.

63 posted on 05/14/2008 11:40:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: ketsu

Righto.

Carry on!


64 posted on 05/14/2008 11:41:36 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: TigersEye
It would be tiring to take it point by point but I will if you want to. It's all right there. Such as...
I saw that. Again, it's semantic games. Think of it this way. The southern slave states ignored/subverted the northern government on various occasions. Does that mean they *weren't part* of the US? So yes, Tibet was a vassal of China. They did what they wanted, sure. But they were still technically part of China. So we're playing semantic games.
65 posted on 05/14/2008 11:43:03 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: TigersEye
No it's not. I have gotten half a dozen zotted over the years and other ChiCom troll hunters have done even better. This one just isn't a professional.
LOL... Well let me keep this one. It's new to me.
66 posted on 05/14/2008 11:44:23 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: txflake
Righto.

Carry on!

Thanks ;)
67 posted on 05/14/2008 11:45:05 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

No they were not technically part of China. Your analogy of the southern states is way off base. Calling India a part of Britain would be closer. But still overreaching.


68 posted on 05/14/2008 11:45:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye

you send this WEB,is overdue.
actually,more west media make all photo,

http://shehui.daqi.com/bbs/00/1907366.html

you can see the web about west media false reprot!
and they say sorry for it!


69 posted on 05/14/2008 11:45:51 PM PDT by hebe (hebe)
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To: TigersEye

Yes you have.


70 posted on 05/14/2008 11:46:04 PM PDT by fatima (Pray.for Jim,founder of this forum.)
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To: ketsu

It’s all yours. I don’t decide who goes and I don’t hit abuse. All I ever do is draw them out until the mods can’t stand them anymore.


71 posted on 05/14/2008 11:47:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: hebe

hebe, you need to overthrow your evil communist government!! Time for a real revolution. PRC party hacks need to go.


72 posted on 05/14/2008 11:47:41 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: fatima

Thank you. I do my best. ; )


73 posted on 05/14/2008 11:48:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye
It’s all yours. I don’t decide who goes and I don’t hit abuse. All I ever do is draw them out until the mods can’t stand them anymore.
Thanks.
74 posted on 05/14/2008 11:48:50 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

75 posted on 05/14/2008 11:48:56 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: ketsu
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76 posted on 05/14/2008 11:49:45 PM PDT by hebe (hebe)
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To: TigersEye

:)


77 posted on 05/14/2008 11:50:02 PM PDT by fatima (Pray.for Jim,founder of this forum.)
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To: TigersEye

“unusual statements are partly due to different cultural poetics”

I’ve notice that too - some of it reminds me of when I used to watch “Kung Fu” after classes everyday. “Grasshopper - the straw bends but does not break in the heavy rain...”. It is very interesting to see the thoughts and images, but the language difficulties make it tough. Still, I guess in my naive mind I had hoped that there would be more of the youths like we saw in Tinnamen Square.

Thanks for your insights.


78 posted on 05/14/2008 11:52:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Enchante

i love chinese forever!!!
chinese is friendly .
i am very luck born and live in chinese!
if you go here ,you can feel it!


79 posted on 05/14/2008 11:52:13 PM PDT by hebe (hebe)
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To: hebe
所有的历史文物都可以证明:曾经西藏就是中国的. 在拉萨市城中磨盘山上的关帝庙中 snip...
Okay, I know your argument(please don't cut and paste though, I want to know what *you* think).

Think of the following things. Is the government of China now, the same as notoriously corrupt government of the emperor? Just because the likes of Kai-shek were willing to conquer china why should the PRC, which is supposed to be much more moral and uplifting, take over Tibet?

80 posted on 05/14/2008 11:54:31 PM PDT by ketsu
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