Posted on 05/11/2008 10:48:45 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
See? This confirms my feeling that we are in the late 70s again.
It may take a while, but someone will surface, reminding us again of how blessed we are to live in such a great country as the United States of America.
And we will once again leave "malaise" behind.
...where every day is Earth Day, otherwise known as Dirt and Squalor Day (credit to P. J. O'Rourke).
Why is this guy allowed to spew this nonsense while working for NASA? Some of their best Climatologists are skeptics, and they laugh at this guy. Some of them work at the same station.
The CO2 level... just what is the optimal level? They can't answer that. They and ALGore show the 100,000 yr ice core record and just ignore the later more detailed analysis that show CO2 levels FOLLOW warming trends.. they don't LEAD the warming trend.
We are NOT running out oil. That is objective reality.
Jim Coleman is right. Al Gore should be tried for fraud, for making money off of fraud. "Doctor" Hansen should be dismissed immediately.
If we are driven into recession it will be because of these Luddites.
FACT: The sun is a variable star.
And .. your source is ...???????
My source:
“... United States Climate Summary for April of this year. For those of you in Rio Linda, that was just last month. The average temperature in April, United States, 2008, was 51 degrees. That 51 degrees was one degree Fahrenheit cooler than the average temperature in the twentieth century, 1901 to 2000. It was the 29th coolest April in 114 years, ladies and gentlemen. The temperature trend for the period of record, 1895 to present is 0.1 degrees Fahrenheit per decade, which means the average temperature increase or decrease of 0.1 degree Fahrenheit per decade was blown in one month. April of 2008, the 29th coolest April in 114 years.”
RSS MSU data at watts up with that website. google it.
You said “COOLEST” and Rush said “29th coolest in 114 years”
BIG DIFFERENCE.
ANd he was talking US temps, not global.
April is cool but not that cool.
(Success is elusive in the latter, the barycenter of the Jovian worlds being, like Earth's Moon, within but not quite central to the parent body.)
You beat me to the second sucker punch to this hysteria by so much more clearly showing Al Gore's misuse of data from antarctic ice cores which better, more recent follow-up analysis clearly has shown incidence of CO2 following warming periods and a planetary biota thriving coincident to CO2 levels at 7,000 ppm.
The politicization of science - linked to private and governmental funding - is increasingly hysteric and agenda driven. I can't recall a less-substantiated hysteria that is bound to eventually discredit peer-reviewed science.
The end game of Hansen, et.al., is clearly the election of Watermelon (Green on the outside and Red on the inside) politicians in the coming U.S. election. The economic downturn is bound to earlier successes at altering national policy, most especially with regard to the use of oil - of which there is a plentiful supply.
Data also indicates the present very gradual upturn in global CO2 is hundreds of years older than the Industrial Age, and is not bumped upward any faster by the increase in fossil fuel use over the past 200 years.
The sun is a variable star, and unfortunately the present bottoming between Cycle 23 and Cycle 24 has continued now well-past the March 2008 predictions set forth by the April 2007 NASA panel split between a high and low prediction for Cycle 24 but unified on the March 2008 prediction for onset. That latter prediction may have turned out to be correct; since January three Helio-magnetic Cycle 24 polarized sunspot groups have surfaced, only to fizzle. Revisiting the issue by the prediction panel is overdue.
Nevertheless, a hotter (more diffracted GCR in-fall / less low altitude clouds incidence) Cycle 24, which should have perhaps already begun a more rapid build-up, could be politically problematic.
Climate has been at the root of many conflicts in the past, and the only thing I fear is the present hysteria may need a correspondent reaction in order to prevent insanity like the banning of the incandescent light bulb, and in favor of clearly a more problematic environmental alternative.
Hysteria plus deliberate ignorance (stupidity) equals war.
It’s hopeless.
You bring the hemlock, I’ll bring the coral snake.
Great response. Lot’s of good information. Thanks. I’ll hold on to it.
About the Sun-Jupiter thing, I think the barycenter (center of mass of the two bodies—the see-saw like ‘balance point’ between the two) for that system lies within the Sun, a lot closer to the Sun’s surface than to its center. But if I understand you correctly, you’re not saying that the slight wobble of the Sun caused by this is responsible for the Earth receiving more energy from the Sun (because it would bring the Sun closer to Earth at times and further away at other times due to the wobbling), but rather that Jupiter’s gravitational ‘tugging’ on the Sun creates some sort of disturbance on the Sun resulting in more outbursts. Is this correct?
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