Posted on 05/08/2008 7:19:07 PM PDT by blam
Do you have any reports about the magnitude of damage in Thailand?
Nature 453, 84-88 (1 May 2008) | doi:10.1038/nature06921; Received 25 June 2007; Accepted 14 March 2008; Corrected 8 May 2008
Advancing decadal-scale climate prediction in the North Atlantic sector
The climate of the North Atlantic region exhibits fluctuations on decadal timescales that have large societal consequences. Prominent examples include hurricane activity in the Atlantic1, and surface-temperature and rainfall variations over North America2, Europe3 and northern Africa4. Although these multidecadal variations are potentially predictable if the current state of the ocean is known (5, 6, 7), the lack of subsurface ocean observations8 that constrain this state has been a limiting factor for realizing the full skill potential of such predictions (9). Here we apply a simple approach—that uses only sea surface temperature (SST) observations—to partly overcome this difficulty and perform retrospective decadal predictions with a climate model. Skill is improved significantly relative to predictions made with incomplete knowledge of the ocean state (10), particularly in the North Atlantic and tropical Pacific oceans. Thus these results point towards the possibility of routine decadal climate predictions. Using this method, and by considering both internal natural climate variations and projected future anthropogenic forcing, we make the following forecast:
Over the next decade, the current Atlantic meridional overturning circulation will weaken to its long-term mean; moreover, North Atlantic SST and European and North American surface temperatures will cool slightly, whereas tropical Pacific SST will remain almost unchanged.
Our results suggest that global surface temperature may not increase over the next decade, as natural climate variations in the North Atlantic and tropical Pacific temporarily offset the projected anthropogenic warming.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7191/abs/nature06921.html
Ah, so they were Nagin'ed to death.
Good. Thanks for the report.
Gore makes the dishonest claim that it was CO2 that warmed the earth to get us out of these past 4 glaciation periods above (roughly every 100,000, the result of periodic changes in Earth's orbit and spin axis), yet one can clearly see that temperature increases (the blue line) actually PRECEEDED CO2 increases (red line) all throughout this 400,000 year time interval that Gore repeatedly refers to as the 'proof'. In fact, temperature increases precede CO2 increases by an of average 800 years! There really isn't any evidence in the geologic record that CO2 has caused significant global warming. Water vapor, by far, is the most important of the greenhouse gas, accounting for around 75-95% of the GH effect -another "inconvenient truth" Gore left out of his sci-fi flick.(BP = before present).
Why would salt water make a flood more dangerous?
Don't know.
When the clothes dry they’re very chafing.
Kind of puts Katrina into perspective.
Why would salt water make a flood more dangerous?
Destroys the ability to grow rice?
Not to mention sharks with frikin lazer beams on their heads.
do you water your plants with salt water?
do you think they’re talking about plants?
In a free society, people can access information to keep themselves informed. Most folks got themselves out of the path of Katrina, because they heard radio and TV reports about the coming storm.
The ruling junta in Burma didn't bother telling the people in the path of the storm of the danger coming their way, and they didn't have access to other information. The only folks who knew the storm was coming their way were the ones who had access to radio stations beamed into the country, on the order of like Radio Free Europe. The government just flat didn't care how many died.
im no expert, but im thinking theres probably a lot of rice on the menu there. are we not counting the damage or loss of farmable land as destruction?
http://unosat.web.cern.ch/unosat/asp/prod_free.asp?id=66
Estimated Total Population Living within Flood-Affected Areas, Myanmar 
International Charter Space and Major Disasters
Product ID: 1177 - 6 May, 2008 - English
GLIDE: TC-2008-000057-MMR
Product FOOTPRINT (LAT x LONG, WSG84 Geographic, decimal degrees)
TopLeft: 18.3 x 94.13
BottomRight: 15.6 x 97.75 This map provides an estimate of those potentially-affected people living directly within flooded areas of southern Myanmar. Red areas shown in the map represent standing flood waters identified from MODIS satellite imagery acquired on 5 May 2008 at a spatial resolution of 250m. Population estimates have been aggregated by township using the LandScan 2005 database. This flood detection is a preliminary analysis & has not yet been validated in the field. Map scale for A3: 1:1,200,000; Projection; UTM Zone 46 North; Datum: WGS 1984
Source(s):
Cyclone Data : NOAA, Un.of Hawai‘i, Tropical Storm Risk
GIS Data : USGS, NGA, ESRI, Respond/Keyobs
Population Data : LandScan 2005
Satellite Data : MODIS-Aqua & Terra
Imagery Date : 5 May & 15 April 2008
Resolution : 250m
Flood Analysis : UNOSAT (5 May 2008)
Map Production : UNOSAT (6 May 2008)
UNOSAT_Myanmar_Nargis_PopulationEstimate_Overview_Lowres_v1.pdf (1.1MB),
UNOSAT_Myanmar_Nargis_PopulationEstimate_Overview_Highres_v1.pdf (2.7MB)
And the ill-tempered sea bass.
I had read where Myanmar was an exporter of rice (to India and somewhere else). I imagine what is now left will stay home. Amazing and terrible the amount of land (and lives) that is gone looking at that earlier satellite photo.
the article is about how the flood managed to kill 100,000 or more people the other day. i don’t see how the saltiness of the water would’ve been a factor in that.
u dig?
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