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Terri and the misdiagnosis of PVS...

Thread by wagglebee.

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Yale neurologist Dr. Steven Novella and I have been involved in a vigorous discussion (example here) of the mind-brain problem in science and philosophy. There are real-world implications of our understanding of the mind, and nowhere are these implications more important than in the medical management of people with severe brain damage.

Dr. Novella recently posted a commentary on the Terri Schiavo case. Dr. Novella’s post was prompted by a study just published in the journal Neurology that analyzes the media coverage of the affair and offers suggestions as to how experts and journalists can convey the truth of such complex cases to the public more effectively. These are laudable goals.

The crux of the matter, of course, is this: what are the facts in the Schiavo case, and, more generally, what are the real issues involved in the diagnosis of persistent vegetative state (PVS)?

Dr. Novella and I see things quite differently.

I am a neurosurgeon, and I believe that the diagnosis of persistent vegetative state, in Ms. Schiavo’s case specifically and in other cases more generally, is of dubious validity.

"Persistent vegetative state," defined succinctly but accurately, is the denial of subjective experience in a brain-damaged human being. PVS is the medical assertion that a human being is an object, but not a subject.

PVS is the only modern medical diagnosis that denies the personhood of a patient, and thus is fraught with logical and ethical problems................................

Terri Schiavo's Death and the Misdiagnosis of a Persistent Vegetative State

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1,113 posted on 08/13/2008 2:46:04 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Daniel T. Zanoza; DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; BykrBayb; Lesforlife; floriduh voter; amdgmary; Sun; ..
Please check out this thread by Daniel T. Zanoza with thanks for the ping to DJ MacWoW.

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The following was written by Bill Beckman:

We knew the push for living wills based on the Terri Schiavo case would be dangerous to people who took the bait. Recently, some cases are coming to light that confirm our fears about the dangers of such documents. A living will has nothing to do with living, but everything to do with dying...

How a Living Will can bring about your premature death

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1,114 posted on 08/13/2008 2:55:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Most encouraging article I’ve seen since Terri’s passing.

Prayers this generates some much needed honest discourse,
beyond the biased sound bite analysis seen to date.


1,118 posted on 08/13/2008 5:31:37 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: 8mmMauser

KAREN WEBER, FLORIDA
http://www.prayforkaren.com/


1,122 posted on 08/13/2008 9:13:11 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( Florida's Governor Crist has roined Floriduh but he's having fun so what the hey?)
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