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Legal experts say what FLDS can do now is cooperate
Deseret News ^ | 5/7/08 | Geoffrey Fattah

Posted on 05/07/2008 9:06:11 AM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: JustaCowgirl
Those people whining and screaming about the 'violation of their constitutional rights' might instead be giving us some facts about where all the boys went.

Like it or not people who break the law have Constitutional rights or else there is no law.

61 posted on 05/07/2008 6:42:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

There are groups trying to help the Lost Boys. However they are victims too & sadly many turn to drugs etc. How a parent could do this to a child is beyond me. But I raised 2 boys who weren’t my own & have taken in others for short times so I know its not just the FLDS parents.... The Lost Boys need a voice & they need to be able to get help. Maybe a group will be able to help them now that this is out in the media, I hope so. I can only imagine what they must feel. Prayers for the Lost Boys.


62 posted on 05/07/2008 8:41:00 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Keep your hands off my deceased family members, thats plain creepy!!!)
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To: Diplomat
...the children's Constitutional rights...supersede my rights.

Not so. If you're child is physically and/or sexually abusing you, you have the right to call the police, which may lead to the child's arrest, depending on the tyke's age, of course.

63 posted on 05/07/2008 9:06:17 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: Politicalmom
The last sentence of the topic puzzles me. In essence, if the FLDS adults cooperate, they likely would get their children back sooner.

Would these children possibly be sent back to the same lifestyle from which they were removed? Of course that makes no sense at all. The established mothers of the children would have to give up their polygamous ways and move into the "outside" world. If the fathers have children by multiple women, I guess they'll have to choose one and hope she'll want him.

64 posted on 05/07/2008 9:52:07 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: MrEdd
Monogamous couple on the ranch?

Ahh! There lies the truth that no smoking gun exists. That proves that accusations of child abuse are blatant lies! (sarc)

65 posted on 05/07/2008 10:18:55 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: TigersEye; MrEdd; panaxanax; pandoraou812; CindyDawg

Just so, TE. Besides, although the source panax provided is written in a fairly objective manner, the statistics provided in it are of little value, given that many of the inhabitants ages are intentionally not verifiable.

And monogamous now doesn’t mean they’ll stay that way. The article does not specify whether the current monogamous couples are of age or not.


66 posted on 05/08/2008 8:06:39 AM PDT by Froufrou
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I agree. The only statistic given there of value was that 2/3s of married households were polygamous. The most important figures was missing. How many underage girls were pregnant or had children or had had children when under age. I expect that a full accounting of that is still under investigation but the article mentioned several that are known and didn't a figure giving a currently known count.

And monogamous now doesn’t mean they’ll stay that way.

Respectfully, Froufrou, that requires speculating and I don't think that is useful here. It also isn't necessary when we can say with some certainty that 66% of married households there are polygamous. It can hardly be considered an anomaly or an isolated phenomenon or something kept hush hush in the community pretending it doesn't happen. That is a solid majority which shows that it is a preferred and accepted practice.

Given that a polygamous marriage by definition means multiple wives and monogamous only one that puts the total number of adults practicing polygamy well over 66% unless the number of single adults is a rather significant percentage which I doubt. No figures in the article on that either.

67 posted on 05/08/2008 10:47:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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