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Unbelievable' sportsmanship in softball game (Ore.)
NBC Sports ^ | April 30, 2008

Posted on 05/07/2008 7:38:04 AM PDT by Kimmers

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To: bobsatwork

If I had been umpiring the game, the game would have been stopped.

I would assume that the situation was controlled by the home plate umpire, and it was his/her decision to allow her to be carried. I would not have allowed it for a number of reasons, but that’s just my opinion.


21 posted on 05/07/2008 8:15:28 AM PDT by alarm rider ("Difficile est saturam non scibere" -- it's difficult not to write satire.)
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To: stylin19a

IOW this was pointless.


22 posted on 05/07/2008 8:16:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Kimmers

Dig deal! This kinda stuff happens all the time in the NBA!


23 posted on 05/07/2008 8:18:53 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: r9etb
(I went to Central for a couple of years before I transferred ... this is pretty typical behavior for the type of people who go there.)

Was also recognized as one of the top "party schools" back in the 1970s.

24 posted on 05/07/2008 8:19:45 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Morgana
Not sure what that means.

No question it was a class act.

I believe these are NAIA schools, which generally follow NCAA guidelines.

Just wondering what rules the umpire was using, as the NCAA rules clearly show, a sub is specifically allowed, and the sub can complete the play.

25 posted on 05/07/2008 8:21:08 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: bobsatwork

A pinch runner can only advance one base on a removed player. When a batter is hit by a pitch, a pinch runner can only take one base (1st).

If a football player has a clear field to the goal line, then trips and falls before getting there. Do you award them the touchdown. I think NOT.

Stupid team. It cost them a chance at the playoffs.


26 posted on 05/07/2008 8:24:29 AM PDT by Tucson Jim
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To: longtermmemmory
maybe, unless the batter only gets credit for a single but the homer stands.

which I didn't get out the the article, except for the coach's explanation ( which I now think might be the case) here:

She was going to kill me if we sub and take (the home run) away. But at the same time I was concerned for her. I didn’t know what to do,” Knox said.


27 posted on 05/07/2008 8:24:45 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: stylin19a

I think it’s clear that the umps didn’t know the rules. A substitute player could’ve run for her and completed the HR.


28 posted on 05/07/2008 8:25:28 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you, Jimmy Carter for all you've done to make the world a safer place.)
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To: Kimmers

Terrific story. The other team and those two girls in particular, are some natural leaders. They are to be commended.


29 posted on 05/07/2008 8:26:58 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Kimmers
Then, members of the Central Washington University softball team stunned spectators by carrying Tucholsky around the bases Saturday so the three-run homer would count — an act that contributed to their own elimination from the playoffs.

Okay, I'll be the one to say it: that right there is the difference between men's sports and women's sports. There's just no way a man in a similar position would allow the team to carry him around the bases, let alone the other team decide to slit their own throats in the first place. And sorry, that this sort of thing is lauded in any way is yet another example of the feminization of our culture.

30 posted on 05/07/2008 8:29:54 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: stylin19a

I still see this as diminishing these girls. She was injured fair and square and could not complete the play. she did NOT complete the play, she had artificial help.

It should ONLY count as the single not the sham homer.

Then again sports should be what you EARN not about feeeeeelings like this nonsensical manuver.


31 posted on 05/07/2008 8:30:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
"IOW this was pointless."

The fact that the batter has to even circle the bases after a fence-clearing homerun is pointless.

32 posted on 05/07/2008 8:33:25 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: longtermmemmory
Then again sports should be what you EARN not about feeeeeelings like this nonsensical manuver.

Thank God there is at least one other knuckle-dragger on this thread!

33 posted on 05/07/2008 8:34:36 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Tucson Jim
Stupid team. It cost them a chance at the playoffs.

I guess the grownups are somewhere other than at your house.

34 posted on 05/07/2008 8:38:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: alarm rider
..I would not have allowed it.... - I think I agree with you. Still, a very moving story.
35 posted on 05/07/2008 8:40:45 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: Hatteras

The circling the bases is apparently put down on the runners stat sheet. She did not earn those bases, she only earned the single first base.

It should not be entered into her stat sheet because she did not “take her earned bases”. They might as well have brought out a golf cart and drove her around the bases.

But this gives the hippies a 1960’s feeeeeeeling of faaaaairness. Perhaps next game they should just stop scoring altogether to avoid more risk of hurt feeeeeelings.


36 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tucson Jim
"A pinch runner can only advance one base on a removed player. When a batter is hit by a pitch, a pinch runner can only take one base (1st)."

Not technically correct. When a batter is hit by a pitch, he is "awarded" 1st base.

"8.5.3.2 If an injury to a batter-runner or runner prevents her from proceeding to an awarded base, the ball is dead and substitution may be made. The substitute must legally touch all awarded or missed bases not previously touched."

As I read this, since a homerun "awards" you with all the bases. Your pinch runner can then "legally touch all awarded or missed bases not previously touched" (in this case, 1st was missed, then 2nd, 3rd and home).

37 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:30 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: longtermmemmory
"...She was injured fair and square and could not complete the play."

"It should ONLY count as the single not the sham homer."

Not according to the rules of the game. (see above)

38 posted on 05/07/2008 8:46:52 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: longtermmemmory
Not much of a sports kinda guy, are you? Vocabulary could use some work too.

She doesn't "earn" the bases by the mere act of running to them. Now, if the ball were hit into the field of play, then, yes, she would earn each base she could successfully reach. In the case of a homerun, things change. She was AWARDED all the bases for hitting the ball over the outfield fence. Just to make sure she gets what is AWARDED to her, the rules of the game stipulate what happens if she is injured and is unable to touch all the bases she has ALREADY BEEN AWARDED.

39 posted on 05/07/2008 9:00:14 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

so then there would have been no loss to her for not walking the bases.

Just another example of the deficiencies of women’s sports which are allowed.


40 posted on 05/07/2008 9:02:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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