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To: nuf said
A bit off topic...

I believe jockeys and car drivers are NOT athletes in same class as other true sports. They simply sit and steer. Even golfers exhibit FAR more athletic skills.

To glorify jockeys and drivers as athletes is an insult to real atheletes.

Just my .02

34 posted on 05/04/2008 6:47:25 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep
To glorify jockeys and drivers as athletes is an insult to real atheletes.

Although I'm not into horse racing I have met a few jockies ... without exception they are in great physical condition, wiry, and very strong. As far as Grand Prix and NASCAR drivers are concerned they have to have great concentration and co-ordination in order to win.

36 posted on 05/04/2008 7:00:27 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: newfreep

Can’t speak to race care drivers, but no jockey just sits and steers! I’ll take it you haven’t done much riding...


46 posted on 05/04/2008 8:11:59 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (McCain expects the democrats to concede when they realize how pure and noble he really is...)
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To: newfreep

Jockeys are great athletes. Try being a 120 lb. man or woman, just trying to sit on a 1000lb. animal going 40 mph. Now try directing that animal or trying to pull him up if he doesn’t want to. Now try doing that in a field of five, with those other animals bumping in to you or running up behind you, etc. Now try doing that in a field of twenty.
That jockey’s life is on the line every minute.

You couldn’t be more wrong.


48 posted on 05/04/2008 8:20:17 AM PDT by gate2wire (Even when you know, you never know.)
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To: newfreep

I don’t know anything about race car driving- but I’d be willing to bet if you rode a race horse, even a slow one at training speed you would get a new appreciation for the athleticism of jockeys. They do far more than just sit there. Great, and even good jockeys have to be in top physical condition- and have to be mentally smart (lot of strategy involved to work out in very short time) and mentally tough. It is one of those jobs that is not
anywhere near as easy as the good ones make it look.


53 posted on 05/04/2008 8:42:47 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: newfreep
I suggest you try to control a galloping horse at 30 mph and keep your balance and tell me that that is not being athletic. It takes strength and skill to ride a horse. These horses can kill a rider easily and yet the rider has to keep the control. Thoroughbreds have been known to jump or crash through the inner rail to their injury and the rider's too. The difference between driving a car and riding a horse, is that the horse is a live animal with mind and emotions of its own.
65 posted on 05/04/2008 2:16:10 PM PDT by fernwood (those who sacrifice freedom for safety, get neither)
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To: newfreep
You couldn't be more wrong. Jockeys are incredible athletes. Try balancing on a metal bar and doing one squat per second for 2 minutes-then imagine doing it while trying to control a horse that is moving at 30 mph. They are not just "sitting there and steering". It may not look like they are doing much, but they are using every muscle in their bodies to move with the horse.

I once rode a friend's 2 yr old colt that was being trained for the track in a racing saddle and tried to gallop in the position that jockeys ride in. My thigh muscles were screaming within a few seconds, and I have ridden all my life. It is much, much harder than it looks.

69 posted on 05/04/2008 6:17:51 PM PDT by slane
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To: newfreep

about jockey Bill Shoemaker:

“In fact, Joe Harper was once having dinner with an orthopedic surgeon who worked on many athletes in Southern California including some from the Los Angeles Rams (NFL) and the Lakers. He performed surgery on Shoemaker’s broken leg after a spill at Santa Anita and the doctor told Harper that the jockey was in the best shape out of any athlete he had ever cut into.

“He said it took him longer to cut through the muscles on Bill Shoemaker than it did any other athlete he had worked on,” said Harper. “Here’s a guy who was comparing apples to oranges, you would think. But a leg is a leg and there is Bill coming out on top.”

Also Time magazine did an article on athletes years ago, that listed being a jockey as the #1 most dangerous athletic profession


76 posted on 05/05/2008 4:45:57 AM PDT by Help!
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