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Why even take off? Just taxi down the highways. Bonus...no lost luggage.
1 posted on 05/03/2008 6:36:57 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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I see you posted this article so you could add a thoughtful comment. To paraphrase your own post: Why even post, why not just insert inane comment. Bonus, less wasted time for fellow freepers.


2 posted on 05/03/2008 6:45:22 AM PDT by saganite
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They’d still manage to lose luggage.
Is there added labor time for making flights longer?


4 posted on 05/03/2008 6:51:47 AM PDT by conservative cat
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BA has also ordered its pilots to use only one engine while taxiing around airports. Both BA and Virgin also try to use 'continuous descent' when landing, so planes glide smoothly down.

This scares me. I can understand and agree with the idea of adding 10 minutes to a flight to save fuel, but letting bean counters tell professional pilots how to land a plane has high risk of disaster. Pilots will be too busy looking at the fuel gage to pay attention to landing the plane safely.

6 posted on 05/03/2008 7:08:12 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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I fly from Portland, Or to Houston via MSP every few weeks. I know when we are about 60-65 minutes away from landing when the engines are cut back and we start slowly descending. Descents used to start about 30 minutes out.


7 posted on 05/03/2008 7:08:31 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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This was an interesting article.

If fuel priced keep increasing, we will slow way down, turboprops will make a comeback.

FAA can adjust airlanes and flight plans decreasing air miles.

FAA could allow varying altitude to take advantage of prevailing winds.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 7:09:21 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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Lets all just drive 55, turn our thermostats down and wear sweaters.


9 posted on 05/03/2008 7:27:52 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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I think Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble tried this. Everything was fine until they looked down.


13 posted on 05/03/2008 7:51:04 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Less government. More community.)
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Its not so much the time at altitude that causes the large fuel burns. Its the time in the traffic patterns at large airports which can begin 100 or 200 miles or more out as aircraft are sequenced for arrivals behind much slower or smaller capacity planes. Often you are slowed to a minimum speed just so you won’t overrun a slower turboprop or recip also due to arrive at the airport at the same time. The controllers do not want to set up holding patterns as that requires more paperwork reporting etc. Not to mention the extra work of monitoring the patterns and dealing with the aircraft that have fuel reserve problems. The airlines tried this kind of foolishness 20 years ago. It was a failure then too. Believe it or not, this is why you may sit on the ground in perfectly clear weather waiting for take off clearance to your destination city 1000 miles away. Sequencing!


15 posted on 05/03/2008 8:14:12 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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A B-52 pilot told me that when he was running low on fuel he would leave the formation by accelerating to a higher altitude to stretch the range. Commerical flights, of course, are told what altitude they must use.


19 posted on 05/03/2008 8:30:47 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To really save fuel, don’t fly at all. Think of how many business people fly to meet face to face. With all the available technology for remote conferencing, it’s amazing how few businesses take advantage of it. Perhaps someday in the future we’ll ‘plug in’ to an avatar half way around the world and be wherever we need to be instantly.


20 posted on 05/03/2008 8:42:12 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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Believe it or not, they would also get some increase in fuel economy if they would wash the planes on a regular basis.

The average weight of the paint on the average airliner is 400 lbs., at least when I went to aviation school. Reduce the paint and polish the surfaces and you would get a pretty good return on investment. Then work on further reducing weight of the aircraft.

Slowing down will slightly increase maintenance costs because many parts, including engines, are maintained on the basis of operating hours and thus if they operate for longer periods doing the same work, more maintenance costs.

One of the simplest ways would be to reduce the baggage brought on board by passengers. These days, the smart travelers send their baggage by FedEx or UPS to their hotels and save hours of waiting and have very little risk of losing a bag. The length of time it takes to board and debark these days is ridiculous because of people taking everything they own and trying to stash it in an overhead compartment.


23 posted on 05/03/2008 9:29:46 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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