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The airline go-slow: Pilots told to fly slower to save fuel
Daily Mail UK ^ | 3rd May 2008 | BARRY WIGMORE

Posted on 05/03/2008 6:36:57 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

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Why even take off? Just taxi down the highways. Bonus...no lost luggage.
1 posted on 05/03/2008 6:36:57 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

I see you posted this article so you could add a thoughtful comment. To paraphrase your own post: Why even post, why not just insert inane comment. Bonus, less wasted time for fellow freepers.


2 posted on 05/03/2008 6:45:22 AM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

A little humor. Always remember to go through life with a little humor.


3 posted on 05/03/2008 6:50:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: COUNTrecount

They’d still manage to lose luggage.
Is there added labor time for making flights longer?


4 posted on 05/03/2008 6:51:47 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Is this what you mean?

10. (in medieval physiology) one of the four elemental fluids of the body, blood, phlegm, black bile, and yellow bile, regarded as determining, by their relative proportions, a person’s physical and mental constitution.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humor


5 posted on 05/03/2008 6:54:53 AM PDT by saganite
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To: COUNTrecount
BA has also ordered its pilots to use only one engine while taxiing around airports. Both BA and Virgin also try to use 'continuous descent' when landing, so planes glide smoothly down.

This scares me. I can understand and agree with the idea of adding 10 minutes to a flight to save fuel, but letting bean counters tell professional pilots how to land a plane has high risk of disaster. Pilots will be too busy looking at the fuel gage to pay attention to landing the plane safely.

6 posted on 05/03/2008 7:08:12 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: COUNTrecount

I fly from Portland, Or to Houston via MSP every few weeks. I know when we are about 60-65 minutes away from landing when the engines are cut back and we start slowly descending. Descents used to start about 30 minutes out.


7 posted on 05/03/2008 7:08:31 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: COUNTrecount

This was an interesting article.

If fuel priced keep increasing, we will slow way down, turboprops will make a comeback.

FAA can adjust airlanes and flight plans decreasing air miles.

FAA could allow varying altitude to take advantage of prevailing winds.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 7:09:21 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: COUNTrecount

Lets all just drive 55, turn our thermostats down and wear sweaters.


9 posted on 05/03/2008 7:27:52 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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so planes glide smoothly down

Uh oh. Beware of the word "glide" when it comes to fuel-saving measures.

10 posted on 05/03/2008 7:32:04 AM PDT by Ezekiel
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Geez. I remember the articles about them, airlines, cutting back on the fresh air to save $75. Maybe it was $75/hour.

Naturally, health care costs for crew and passengers went up from the longer exposure to used, bacteria-laden air.

11 posted on 05/03/2008 7:39:44 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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“Nice metric conversion, you hoser.”
12 posted on 05/03/2008 7:50:27 AM PDT by dighton
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To: COUNTrecount

I think Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble tried this. Everything was fine until they looked down.


13 posted on 05/03/2008 7:51:04 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Less government. More community.)
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“If fuel priced keep increasing, we will slow way down, turboprops will make a comeback”

Already happening ATA and Bombardier are having record sales of Turboprops. They are making them bigger, faster and quieter....although still nothing like a jet.

14 posted on 05/03/2008 8:05:26 AM PDT by DAC22
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To: COUNTrecount

Its not so much the time at altitude that causes the large fuel burns. Its the time in the traffic patterns at large airports which can begin 100 or 200 miles or more out as aircraft are sequenced for arrivals behind much slower or smaller capacity planes. Often you are slowed to a minimum speed just so you won’t overrun a slower turboprop or recip also due to arrive at the airport at the same time. The controllers do not want to set up holding patterns as that requires more paperwork reporting etc. Not to mention the extra work of monitoring the patterns and dealing with the aircraft that have fuel reserve problems. The airlines tried this kind of foolishness 20 years ago. It was a failure then too. Believe it or not, this is why you may sit on the ground in perfectly clear weather waiting for take off clearance to your destination city 1000 miles away. Sequencing!


15 posted on 05/03/2008 8:14:12 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Interesting. I don’t fly any particular routes regularly though I’ve logged somewhere near 70k miles this year already, but I have not noted “hour-out” descents.


16 posted on 05/03/2008 8:23:10 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: pnh102

Nothing to worry about, they are just starting to descend a little sooner to trade altitude for distance. It’s like letting off the gas in your car well before a stop light and letting the car slow its self.


17 posted on 05/03/2008 8:28:07 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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Geez. I remember the articles about them, airlines, cutting back on the fresh air to save $75. Maybe it was $75/hour.

Which is why there is now a proposed standard, ASHRAE 161P, for aircraft cabin ventilation.

18 posted on 05/03/2008 8:30:01 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: COUNTrecount

A B-52 pilot told me that when he was running low on fuel he would leave the formation by accelerating to a higher altitude to stretch the range. Commerical flights, of course, are told what altitude they must use.


19 posted on 05/03/2008 8:30:47 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: COUNTrecount

To really save fuel, don’t fly at all. Think of how many business people fly to meet face to face. With all the available technology for remote conferencing, it’s amazing how few businesses take advantage of it. Perhaps someday in the future we’ll ‘plug in’ to an avatar half way around the world and be wherever we need to be instantly.


20 posted on 05/03/2008 8:42:12 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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