Posted on 05/02/2008 9:41:40 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
As Barack Obama's candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate's integrity. Obama asserted in December, "I've always been a Christian," and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. "The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country [Kenya]. But I've never practiced Islam." In February, he claimed: "I have never been a Muslim...other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia] I've had very little connection to the Islamic religion." "Always" and "never" leave little room for equivocation. But many biographical facts suggest that, when growing up, the Democratic candidate for president both saw himself and was seen as a Muslim. Obama's Kenyan father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein." Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetero, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication reports a former classmate recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims." The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the AP reports that "documents showed that he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school."
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Remember, both the communists and the muslims teach that lying to outsiders and unbelievers to attain your goals is a positive virtue.
Here’s a link to a thread I posted this morning.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2010247/posts
Obama’s a muslim. Yep. He is.
Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!
www.AnySoldier.com
Oops, did I get the wrong Americanexpat?
Hussein in the membrane,
Hussein in the brain!
Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!
www.AnySoldier.com
I could have told you that he is a liar before he ever opened his mouth in public, but then so are Hillary and McCain. No one can be a major player on the political game board nowadays without lying about a lot of things. They just call it something else for the benefit of us hicks in the sticks who happen to believe that a bold faced liar is one of the most disreputable forms of human life.
See, Muslims do revere Jesus as a holy man and prophet. Just not Son of God.
So, saying one is Christian is not incompatible with being a Muslim, al Taqiyyah aside.
After all, the only things you need to do to be a good Sunni Muslim are:
o Shahadah (profess that Allah is the only God and Mohammed is his prophet),
o Salah (perform prayers),
o Zakah (alms for the poor),
o Sawm (observe ritual fasts),
o Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca)
Now, we do not know if Barack has been to Mecca. His passport records might be of interest for that reason. We do know he spent time in Pakistan. As to Zakah, Sawn and Salah, he could easily keep those private. Which leaves Shahadah. He is NOT an apostate until he says “I do not believe that Mohammed was the prophet of God.” Better, he should add, “I do not believe that Allah is God.” But he has done no such thing. The burden of proof is on Obama to demonstrate more conclusively that he is no longer a Muslim. Given that Pipes does a nice job spotlighting Obama’s lie that he was “never” a Muslim, the notion that he’s some sort of sleeper will persist.
I've been saying this for months. I think fellow FReepers think I need a tin foil hat.
Not any more.
Yeah, but Obama’s not sleeping with a muslim like Hillary is.
I think he’s a sleeper agent of hardcore marxism, not islam.
He also said that the mooslim call to prayer was “the most beautiful sound” ....so how come he was able to recognize it....?
When did he say that?
But I think Obama, the exposed “messiah,” is going to break records for the most lies in the shortest time. He’s got no real experience and a short history but the scandals are rapidly unfolding. It’s not just Wright but his close relationship with Ayers the terrorist. And I was just reading in National Review about all his shady dealings with corrupt Chicago politicians such as Rezko the swindler, who is now on trial and was a bagman for Obama’s campaigns - and pulled a very slick, and probably criminal, real estate caper to help Obama get the property for his house.
Absolutely! That’s even in the Koran. And you’re right also about communism - they both have an “end justifies the means” ethic.
Travis-
So THAT’S where their bad rep came from! You see that image portrayed as far back as the epic film Casablanca—pickpocketing, lying, murder (of Nazi couriers), scheming, treachery and wearing those silly little hats that don’t fit one’s big head...
Just a random thought. Since 9/11 there have been a multitude of books on Islam and Mohammed. But one of the first and best accounts I’ve read is in the last volume of Edward Gibbon’s “Decline and Fall...” In his own sardonic and inimitable style Gibbon really tells the story in an unforgettable way. If you havn’t read it, I recommend that you read that section at your leisure.
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