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The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Tuskegee University ^ | NA | Borgna Brunner

Posted on 05/02/2008 5:22:24 PM PDT by neverdem

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It's only fair to read Tuskegee University's statement.

The Pitiless Health Service had no brain, no heart nor shame once penicillin was a recognized treatment, IMHO.

1 posted on 05/02/2008 5:22:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Wonder if the doctors were democrats..
The democrat party has treated blacks as animals for a hundred years.. as they DO NOW..
2 posted on 05/02/2008 5:26:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: neverdem

The medical establishment doesn’t care. Anything powerless - from elderly poor black men to unborn babies - is fair game for experimentation.

It used to be fairly common to use patients in mental hospitals and prison inmates (regardless of color - the point of the Tuskeegee experiment was to find out if blacks, specifically, reacted differently from whites) for experimental studies. So when people complain about government restrictions on medical studies, remember...there’s a reason for those restrictions.


3 posted on 05/02/2008 5:29:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: hosepipe
Wonder if the doctors were democrats..

It was called "the solid South" for a reason. Odds favored them being the party of "the little guy."

4 posted on 05/02/2008 5:29:57 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: livius
The medical establishment doesn’t care. Anything powerless - from elderly poor black men to unborn babies - is fair game for experimentation.

Who's the medical establishment? That's a pretty broad brush.

5 posted on 05/02/2008 5:33:12 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem
the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis

So, do we need to know any more about what an entirely government-run medical-care system would be like?

6 posted on 05/02/2008 5:35:46 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: neverdem
Tall Tales about Tuskegee

There are many wildly inaccurate assertions about this experiment.

7 posted on 05/02/2008 5:36:15 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: neverdem

“The Pitiless Health Service had no brain, no heart nor shame once penicillin was a recognized treatment, IMHO.”

They also hadn’t figured out how to treat anaphylactic shock
which was a fear at that time. Folks could be allergic to it.


8 posted on 05/02/2008 5:38:50 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: neverdem
At best, it wasn't our finest hour.
9 posted on 05/02/2008 5:42:29 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: neverdem

Sickening and shameful.


10 posted on 05/02/2008 5:44:08 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: neverdem
It seems that white people will have to pay for all such things and slavery FOREVER. I am not guilty and my conscious is clear. I can only forgive acts against me and can only be forgiven things of things I have done.
11 posted on 05/02/2008 5:45:16 PM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: neverdem

I agree neverdem—this assessment seems a little harsh. my wife recently went through a procedure and I was impressed with the handling and the compassion of the medical staff.


12 posted on 05/02/2008 5:51:04 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: neverdem
This was probably the worst scandal in American medicine. It was not just malpractice, it amounted to a criminal conspiracy to commit mass murder. The people responsible deserved long jail terms, if not execution.

Tuskegee was not, however, proof of widespread white racism. Once the "racist white society" learned of this horror, they responded with the appropriate outrage and closed the program. A racist society would have responded with "So what? They were only blacks."

Jeremiah Wright says that the Tuskegee victims were deliberately infected by the U.S. Government. Anything to encourage the bigots in his congregation to keep hating whitey.

13 posted on 05/02/2008 5:53:49 PM PDT by TChad
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To: iowamark
There are many wildly inaccurate assertions about this experiment.

I'm trying to figure out if the experiment lasted for 40years how long were these people in "late stage syphillis"?

Let's suppose for a minute AIDS was created to wipe out Blacks. They've known about it for 25 years now and still they participate in behavior that spreads the disease.

Now, tell me again whose fault it is?

14 posted on 05/02/2008 5:54:14 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: neverdem

Ah yes..the good doctors, the good lawyers, the good judges....


15 posted on 05/02/2008 5:56:03 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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“The medical establishment doesn’t care.”

Excuse me.......I had a team of very good, intelligent, caring and talented folks of the medical community save my life last year.

I was given 6 months to live and so far, I’m 6 months and 2 days past the pull date.


16 posted on 05/02/2008 5:56:59 PM PDT by Gator113 (Obama is a member of the Far Wright Conspiracy.......)
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To: neverdem

Let me be the first to say - FDR’s fault!


17 posted on 05/02/2008 5:57:16 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: livius
...the point of the Tuskeegee experiment was to find out if blacks, specifically, reacted differently from whites) for experimental studies.

How could they determine if there were any differences without doing a parallel study using white males? AFAIK, that was never done.

18 posted on 05/02/2008 6:03:38 PM PDT by Bob
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To: livius
It is late and been a long week for me, so I venture forth.

IIRC, the US Army used soldiers as guinea pigs to test the effects of atomic/nuclear radiation during the 40-50’s. There was no separation of the soldiers due to race or rank during these tests, conducted in Nevada deserts. Tuskegee is a sad experiment, but I do not think it is any worse than taking healthy men, soldiers, (no women and mostly WHITE) and seeing how they reacted to radiation. Similarly, my next door neighbor showed me scars on his arm where mustard gas was placed to demonstrate its effect on exposed skin. He is white and experienced this during his Army days.

19 posted on 05/02/2008 7:18:25 PM PDT by Tahoe3002 (USMC 1972-1981)
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To: neverdem
Terrible, yes; but nothing compared to the horrors of what happened under the liberals' "model" health-care system of Canada:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplessis_Orphans

Be warned. If you've never heard of the Duplessis Orphans, it may be a life-changing experience. You may thereafter wonder if the "normal" view of the world is correct; you may start to think twice about dismissing some people derisively as nutjobs or conspiracy theorists. The above link to the wiki is just a stub; there's much more online and the thread to other connections in Canada and the US is quite disturbing.

20 posted on 05/02/2008 7:29:56 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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