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PPP Indiana Poll: Clinton 50, Obama 42
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Posted on 04/29/2008 1:16:10 PM PDT by obamahorror

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To: SampleMan

“I think we want her to win Indiana. That will ensure that she goes all the way to the Convention. “

Please listen carefully, she was going all the way to the convention even if she lost PA, she will go if she loses in IN, she will go if she never wins another G—h D—n state! Hellary is looking more like a front runner as Obama is now taking serious damage and his numbers are plummeting. People are playing with fire and they are too stupid to even realize it.


21 posted on 04/29/2008 2:05:28 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Swordfished

Just a few points:

1. Do not look a gift horse in the mouth

We could have been facing a very well funded Democrat, either the first female or the first African American candidate, who would have had the nomination wrapped up by early March, with the entire liberal media complex gloating over the candidate 24/7. Any attacks from the Republicans would be written off as sexist or racist.

2. Rush should not be given credit or blame

Rush is neither brilliant or an idiot. He is just an average smart conservative who has a very good show. Poll numbers indicate that not many Republicans switched over beyond what is expected, and those that did voted close to even b/w Obama and Clinton.

3. Obama will have at least a 110 delegate lead going after early June

That’s just the way it works with proportional voting.

4. If Clinton is the nominee, it will be because the super delegates broke strong in her favor—and many Obama supporters will feel like the nomination was stolen.

Seriously. Look at the Obama supporters. I spoke with dozens when they were lining up for their caucus. They were there on pure emotion and elation. They thought Obama was going to save the world. Many will sit out the election if they feel Clinton stole the nomination.

5. The best possible scenario is for the nominee to be undecided until the last day of the Democratic convention.

The more Clinton and Obama publicize negatives about each other, the easier it is for the Republicans to bring them up this Fall.


22 posted on 04/29/2008 2:16:38 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: obamahorror

A victory in Indiana by Clinton solves nothing, it simply buys Hillary more time.


23 posted on 04/29/2008 2:18:23 PM PDT by Biblebelter (Barry, your Uncle Jeremiah is speaking now, Barry can you hear him, Barry what you say now.)
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To: obamahorror

Agrred. B.O. will get the nomination or there will be riots in the hood.


24 posted on 04/29/2008 2:38:56 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: henkster

I believe your exactly right. Hillary should have been stopped months ago.

Hillary would be the perfect candidate for the mainstream media, who will try to take down McCain.

Obama is a tougher sell, and will change the dynamics of the fight against him.

I believe the mainstream media would turn on Obama in the background, as the elites and kingpins tied to the network owners and heads only want McCain or Clinton.

If Obama is elected it destroys too many established connections that have taken decades to build in the Washington establishment. Too many favors need to be repayed with McCain and Clinton visa versa.

***Time to throw the support back to Osama; he’s wounded and he needs our help /s/ Only to keep him alive and stop Hilary’s momentum. Obama is imploding as we all suspected he would. We need him to be the dems candidate.***


25 posted on 04/29/2008 3:16:37 PM PDT by msnpatriot
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"Agrred. B.O. will get the nomination or there will be riots in the hood."

Soooo....what do you think happens when Obama loses to McCain???

26 posted on 04/29/2008 3:33:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: Hacklehead
People are playing with fire and they are too stupid to even realize it.

Before you start calling fellow Conservatives stupid, maybe you should stop and reflect a little. The media was going to get behind either Lib no matter what. If the dems were united right now behind one candidate, then it would be nonstop talk of "the historic" and "inevitable" democratic win. The money that Hillary and Obama are raking in right now are going against each other instead of going against McCain and the Republicans in general. Do you realize how much money Obama has right now and how that could be used to build out his coattails? Instead he has to run commericials attacking Hillary.

If you think McCain was going to beat either of them flat out, then maybe you need a little education. The best chance we have is for the dems to slit each others throats which they are doing. Only two things can stop this democratic self destruction, either a unifying ticket of Hillary / Obama or McCain keeps attacking his conservative base. Otherwise, I am starting to think we might win this...

27 posted on 04/29/2008 3:34:56 PM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: fatez

very nicely said


28 posted on 04/29/2008 3:37:40 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SampleMan
I've got news for you. Hillary has less of a chance to win the general than Obama. That is especially true if she takes the nomination away from him via the super-delegates, which is exactly what she will have to do.

Keeping this going is a Godsend.

You know things can change overnight. Obama is inherently weaker than Hillary, and that is totally evident now that the media has turned on him.

From what I can tell, Wright and some others may want to deny Obama the nomination so they can perpetuate their us vs. them mantras.

The media will portray a narrative of a slow and steady Hillary comeback - the average Joe on the street has no idea what a superdelegate is - only political junkies and highly-educated people do. The idea that blacks will riot or stay home is hard to believe, especially after Obama endorses Hillary.

29 posted on 04/29/2008 4:05:30 PM PDT by Swordfished
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Oh *c’mon*! Just because nobody has opened a can of whoopass on HRC from the right eor a while...doesn’t nean that there aren’t pallets of it, being kept cool and dry for future use.

Hah! You think McCain can come from the 'right'?

30 posted on 04/29/2008 4:06:21 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Hacklehead
People are playing with fire and they are too stupid to even realize it.

Listen and listen carefully. She has always had a good chance of becoming our next President. Obama is a Marxist, like her, and he too, has a good chance of becoming our next President. Those are the facts.

Anything that decreases the percentages of both of them making that happen, is a good thing.

And no one is living under any allusion. When you create fire brakes you are playing with fire, but the alternative is much worse.

Obama has money, lot's of money. Up to now he hasn't used it to really attack Clinton. He's been skating. And without real pressure, like her winning PA and IN, he would keep skating all the way to the convention.

He will now start attacking her and tearing her up. That will create even more bad blood. And the black vote will have a significant chunk missing if Hillary wins. Additionally, that always overrated youth vote, will stay home even more than usual.

31 posted on 04/29/2008 4:10:39 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Swordfished
The idea that blacks will riot or stay home is hard to believe, especially after Obama endorses Hillary.

You obviously aren't listening to very many blacks talking about this. They won't riot, they'll just stay home.

32 posted on 04/29/2008 4:13:51 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Swordfished

I think McCain is the luckiest untrustworthy jackass on tthe face of the earth, (which means something, when you consider Mugabe Olberman, Chavez, Cafferty..etcetera) I think everything is being handed to him, including the “vetting” of all of his opponants, while he spends half his time, sticking his foot in his mouth, 40^ of his time betrayimng the people who are supporting him being a “maveruick”, and 10 percent of his time actually saying/doing anything right. It won’t be because of *him*, that his opponents go by the wayside for being inadequate to the task. The cans of “whoopass will be opened for him. And if he wins, it’ll be because there was a major run on clothespins at the stores, so people can use them on their noses while they vote for McCain...as the least of evils...hopefully...


33 posted on 04/29/2008 4:22:43 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Tin eared zeroes and Hollypukes comin...)
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To: Aria

With the Rapist and Chelsea smirking as they look on.


34 posted on 04/29/2008 10:36:01 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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