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To: lasereye

This guilt by association argument as it relates to science is just so absurd that anyone should be embarrassed for trying it.

What is so insidious about this argument is that is forward-looking. As if you can blame anything bad that ever happens on the theory of evolution. There is no difference between blaming that and the theory of gravity. There wouldn’t be any plane crashes if it weren’t for Sir Isaac Newton, dammit.

This nonsense needs to stop.


347 posted on 04/29/2008 8:18:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

“What is so insidious about this argument is that is forward-looking. As if you can blame anything bad that ever happens on the theory of evolution. There is no difference between blaming that and the theory of gravity. There wouldn’t be any plane crashes if it weren’t for Sir Isaac Newton, dammit. This nonsense needs to stop.”

And the worm can turn as well. People who insist that Darwinism led to the nazis leave themselves open to the accusation that a belief in God has been used by countless indiviguals throughout history to forward their own evil ends killing millions.


351 posted on 04/30/2008 5:27:40 AM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Dog Gone

The theory of gravity didn’t enable plane flights. Plane flights and crashes are the result of a technology. I guess you could have used the study of fluid dynamics.

You obviously don’t understand what guilt by association is. That has to do with the point of view or behavior of one person being attributed to another because they have had some kind of connection - working at the same law firm, being related or something. It’s about connections that don’t logically man anything. This is tracing the historical development of an idea and what the underlying assumptions were. It’s simply cause and effect. If that’s not valid then the entire study of history is not valid.

I don’t see how the holocaust could have happened without Darwin’s theory. It was predicated on racial theories. You dismiss it as being a lunatic type of notion like Wright’s AIDS claim, a ridiculous comparison.

The idea of superior and inferior races flows inevitably from evolution theory, (which I don’t believe in). You apparently do believe in it. So your only real argument is that we just have to accept that there may be superior and inferior races, and unfortunately some people will misuse this idea, like Hitler. Instead, your argument is, “Since evolution is science, no one can say it could possibly result in anything bad, because then they are attacking science”, a stupid argument.

You’re basically arguing there can be no cause and effect with respect to evolution theory, since it’s science. Ideas have effects. Is it okay to say Marx, Christianity, the major philosophers have had effects, since they aren’t “science”? But then isn’t that still being anti-philosophy, guilt by assocation etc?


362 posted on 04/30/2008 10:11:16 AM PDT by lasereye
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