I think we agree on far more than we disagree btw.
I think we do, too, and I have no problem with people who believe in ID, or Special Creation.
Really my only objection to ID is that some advocates of it want to say that it IS science and should be taught as valid science.
But it's not science. That doesn't even mean it's wrong. It might be 100% right. But science doesn't permit a conclusion without testable evidence, and ID probably can never provide that. Science only deals in the natural world. It can't jump in with supernatural explanations because those can't be tested or recreated by peers.
Science has an explanation for why trees sprout new leaves in the Spring. But the real explanation is that there are tree fairies who wave their magic wands. That's ridiculous, of course, but made only to illustrate the point that once science accepts a supernatural explanation, it's no longer science at all. You might as well not even bother.
If ID can start being a science instead of claiming that is science, then the discussion should be fascinating.
You say it isn’t, but I and many others say it IS science. That is the theory of ID is scientific. We weren’t the first, & won’t be the last to disagree.
There are many things I disagree with too...there’s some rubbish in history books I’d HARDLY call history, let alone accurate, but there again, it’s in the history books BEING taught as history just the same.
I can chirp a million different times for years about my disagreements; well that is until these same propenents of censorship hijack the legal system to the point that THAT is disallowed too, but that too remains to be seen!
I CAN disagree till the cows come home.
Again, science is concensus. Among scientists, and everyone else. It changes, it isn’t etched in stone and to say what is or isn’t science is futile.
As far as fairies waving magic wands...that makes more sense to me than things just popping up from nothing, matter appearing from non-matter with zero intelligent thought behind such a thing, then life “naturally” progressing from “soup” to slither and slide over land, eventually just up out of nowhere (but over ga-jillions of years of course), sprouting limbs to walk, and so on, with no purpose behind it.
I don’t have a problem with the godless, but I don’t scream and whine and call to censor and ban and sue them to stop saying what they believe is science, history or what have you.
Such is America.
THANK GOD!