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To: HerrBlucher

Hitler claimed to be a Christian as an adult. He never claimed to be a “Darwinist”.


255 posted on 04/28/2008 7:26:32 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton
Hitler claimed to be a Christian as an adult. He never claimed to be a “Darwinist”.

Of course not!

The whole dishonest Darwin = Hitler nonsense was dreamed up by creationists who had neither the scientific training, nor the evidence, to make a dent in the theory of evolution.

Look at it as a plea for attention, kind of like a child holding his breath. Or some of the stunts PETA pulls with semi-naked women.

261 posted on 04/28/2008 7:43:56 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Soliton; Dog Gone; allmendream

http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/hitler.htm

“• In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing “lower human types.” He criticized the Jews for bringing “Negroes into the Rhineland” with the aim of “ruining the white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization.” He spoke of “Monstrosities halfway between man and ape” and lamented the fact of Christians going to “Central Africa” to set up “Negro missions,” resulting in the turning of “healthy . . . human beings into a rotten brood of bastards.” In his chapter entitled “Nation and Race,” he said, “The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel, but he, after all, is only a weak and limited man; for if this law did not prevail, any conceivable higher development (Hoherentwicklung) of organic living beings would be unthinkable.” A few pages later, he said, “Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.”[3]”

From that it is clear that Hitler was an evolutionist. How could he have been anything else and promoted the creation of the ubermensch?

As Weickart noted in his six reasons why Darwinism led to the Holocaust, Darwinism removed the basis for our Judeo Christian moral code and replaced it with a scientific basis for Race Hygiene. You may call that “twisting” Darwinism but I don’t see where the twist is. Survival of the fittest is survival of the fittest. Eugenics is simply applied Darwinism.

Eugenics and racism are NOT applied Christianity. Therefore, using Christianity to promote these things is twisting it into something it is not.


266 posted on 04/28/2008 7:54:13 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Asked on his deathbed why he was reading the bible, WC Fields replied "I'm looking for loopholes.")
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To: Soliton
"Hitler claimed to be a Christian as an adult. He never claimed to be a “Darwinist”.

Hitler identified as a Christian only when it suited his political means, just as the atheist Stalin during WWII proclaimed himself "Protector of the Church" even as he worked to destroy it.

The facts are that Hitler soon after taking power, began to undercut Christianity and hoped to distort it to his own ends. He outlawed religious education for youth and banned crucifixes and spoke openly of preserving the outward traditions of Christianity while corrupting Christianity from the inside out.

He repeatedly evoked Darwin and natural selection in his racial schemes and to suggest otherwise is simply being historically ignorant.

Obviously Darwin doesn't equal Hitler....but Darwin certainly makes room for Hitler.

329 posted on 04/29/2008 7:16:11 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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