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To: fieldmarshaldj

Let it go?
Let it go that many Republicans stabbed their nation in the back and gave us 8 years of Clinton because of their immature temper tantrum?

Pretend that this type of betrayal doesn’t have detrimental consequences in the real world?
You’ve got to be kidding me!


29 posted on 04/27/2008 3:27:32 AM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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To: counterpunch

Yes, you need to let it go. It was 16 years ago and sniping at folks when you have no idea whether or not they voted for Perot is unhelpful. I was 18 in that election and I did support GHW Bush and even wore a black armband when he lost because I knew EXACTLY what we’d be getting with Clintoon and my jackass Senator Gore. Problem is now that Perot reminds me a LOT of McCain. A total kook, arrogant, megalomaniacal jerk. Perot deliberately undermined GHW Bush, NOT the voters. Still, many Republicans rightly believed at the time that Bush had undermined the Conservative movement and squandered Reagan’s capital.

In hindsight, GHW Bush was a subpar President and seemed genuinely disinterested in doing everything it took to win a 2nd term. His greatest mistake in office was doing EXACTLY what McCain will do as President... go along to get along with a corrupt and morally bankrupt liberal rodent Congress. GHW Bush lost 1992 the moment he broke his word on raising taxes.

A more disturbing scenario IF GHW Bush had pulled off a 2nd term victory is that in 1994 there would have been no GOP Congressional and Gubernatorial victories, only a further erosion of the GOP. Vice-President Quayle would’ve lost in ‘96 against whichever Dem would’ve run (either Clinton again, or Gore) and then take a wild guess what President would’ve been in office for 9/11 ?

Sometimes we have to go through those awful scenarios like Clintoon to get to better leadership. Go back even to 1976. If Ford had won over Carter, there wouldn’t have been a President Reagan in 1980, as Carter himself probably would’ve won that year in an open race (since the economy and most everything else would’ve still been in the toilet under Ford). The Soviets would then still exist today, as Carter would’ve followed the path of appeasement, and Eastern Europe would still be under the thumb of the Communists. Would that have been preferable to have kept Carter (and Reagan) out of the White House ?


31 posted on 04/27/2008 3:45:04 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: counterpunch

Heaven forbid we blame Bush senior for being a lying weasel and alienating the base.


33 posted on 04/27/2008 3:53:51 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: counterpunch

You sure do need to let it go. The reason George H. Bush lost is because he just stopped campaigning there at the end. He broke his promise on no more taxes. He lost that election all on his own & practically HANDED it to Clinton.

You know, it’s funny - George W. Bush has not done us any favors in this election. We have no imcumbent Vice President to unite behind (I love Cheney, but he should have stepped down at some point to get someone in there that would run for President at this time). Because we had a dozen different people vying for the office, we were split in small groups & now look who we’re stuck with. GWB could have done a lot more to have kept that from happening. He has left this party in tatters & his father didn’t do us many favors in that aspect either.

It’s not the people that voted for Perot’s fault. It is ALWAYS the candidate’s fault when they lose - not the voters. Stop blaming the voters!


50 posted on 04/27/2008 6:59:05 AM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: counterpunch
counterpunch, when is enough too much?
At what point, according to your thinking, are we allowed to say, "NO MORE"!

I'm not trying to rag on you, this is a serious question.
I have become more and more disgusted by both parties that, since Reagan left office, I now see very little difference, internally, between a Democrat and a Republican.
The two parties still have some differences when you go outside the nation's boundaries but inside?

When do the nations voters send a message to both parties letting them know that they are no longer viable?

145 posted on 04/30/2008 11:47:07 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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