Posted on 04/24/2008 9:19:02 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
As hundreds of children taken into state custody from a polygamous religious sect settle into their new foster homes, their temporary caregivers are careful how they introduce them to a whole new world.
First rule: no TV yet.
Foster homes and shelters across the state are scrambling to accommodate 437 children who have until now lived a largely isolated life on the Yearning for Zion Ranch, a sprawling 1,700-acre compound in West Texas.
"These kids don't know who the president is. Don't know that we're at war. Don't know who Elvis was, don't know who the Beatles were," said Bobby Gilliam, director of the Methodist Children's home in Waco, Texas, where some of the children will be staying.
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The 50 girls who will be coming to the Methodist home in Waco will be woken up at the crack of dawn and given chores similar to what they did on the ranch. It will take time before they are ready to mix with other children and watch TV, Gilliam said.
Social workers are also being given a list of dos and don'ts for how to deal with children who may not have ever seen television and who were raised in a culture that the state says encourages underage girls to marry older men. Sect members deny the allegation.
Among the rules: don't ask about their religion, don't press if the children avoid eye contact and don't allow them to use cell phones.
Judge Barbara Walther, who ordered the children kept in temporary state custody, said that siblings should be kept together, that babies younger than 1 should stay with their mothers and that breast-feeding mothers with children between the ages of 1 and 2 should be allowed to live near their toddlers.
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The children are being housed until they have individual status hearings. Some children could be placed in permanent foster care. Some parents who have left the sect may win custody, while some youngsters may be allowed to return to the ranch in Eldorado.
>> Texas Rangers conducted the raid, not the federal government.
...and as everyone knows, unlike the FBI and ATF, the Texas Rangers are conservatives, Republicans, and morally pure as the driven snow, so they simply can’t be in the wrong. I read that in a book about the Rio Grande battles, so it MUST be true.
>> Shame on all of you!
Say what? Who are you to tell me I should feel a sense of shame for taking the side of a group raided by an overreaching government on a “tip” from an insane person? Once I know all the facts — the FACTS, mind you, not what ABC says — I may change my mind. Until then — bite me, you self righteous a$$.
Then you better refresh your memory on the constitution friend. No where in that document doe it protect the rights of child rapists under the guise of religion. Sounds to me like you approve of how fLDS conducts itself with young teen aged girls.
Moms, do you have something that will satisfy this request?
BTW, I freely admit to having an agenda. No mystery there. Mine happens NOT to find excuses for the cult.
Nice smokescreen! Is this a my Jesus is better than yours?
Get real Godzilla, it seems you took a poke for no other reason than to bait a religious argument. My statement still stands! Links to the alleged reluctancy...if there are any?
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
These people don’t accept the trial testimony of the horrible state workers, or the sworn testimony in the affidavits, or the temple document listing underage “marriages” as evidence.
I’m afraid we don’t have actual video of a child being raped, which seems to be the only thing they’ll accept...maybe.
I'll let you know when I finally see your jesus in action.
Now, you’ve forgotten one of the wonderful men around here informed us that “women don’t have a constitutional right not to be raped and abused”.
Don’t forget that. And KEEP SWEET...or else.
See post 66
I wear my bias in my tagline, CW...where's your badge?
>> I’m afraid we don’t have actual video of a child being raped, which seems to be the only thing they’ll accept...maybe.
Get real.
The POSTED article contains not a shred of any “trial testimony of state workers”. There hasn’t been a trial yet, to my knowledge.
The POSTED article contains not a hint of “temple documents listing underaged marriages”.
The POSTED article — you know Mom, the one this thread is referring to? — DOES contain things I find disturbing, such as:
“Mothers of some of the 400 children taken into custody from a polygamous religious sect made a dramatic public plea as well as a legal appeal in court today to stop their kids from being sent into state foster homes.”
Indeed! Why?
Maybe there’s more to it — but NOTHING in the POSTED ARTICLE to which the rest of the comments on this thread PERTAIN.
Now if you have such evidence, maybe you could post links to it?
You mean like...
..."I would hope that the decision to hold JW parents for not seeking medical care for their children wasn't based strictly upon the religious affiliation of the parents..."
...or "I would hope that the government ignoring certain claims of consciencious objector status wasn't based strictly upon the religious affiliation of the parents..."
...or "I would hope that a Utah magistrate in the late 19th century who would try to carefully screen a marriage license ap wasn't taking extra caution based strictly on the fact that said magistrate lived in Poligamyville."
(You mean that kind of governmental profiling you've clearly been against all these years of your life?)
>> see post 66
Politicalmom’s diatribe is your evidence? ROFL!
Don’t have anything against Politicalmom, but I’m not taking her word for jack. Her track record of being right is pretty poor (ref: Fred Thompson threads if you don’t believe me.)
I wasn’t talking to or about you.
I suggest you do a keyword search on FLDS. If there is anything new, someone will have posted it.
>> I suggest you do a keyword search on FLDS. If there is anything new, someone will have posted it.
You’re the guy with the unsupported position. Why is that my job?
Frankly, as strident as you have been on this thread, I’m shocked that you don’t have the facts at your fingertips.
Some self-examination might be in order.
Trust me. I’ve been watching these threads for a few days now and there’s nothing new.
A Mormon sect is being busted in Texas for years of child rape and a Mormon posts this.
Fair enough. My bad for assuming so.
OH, yeah, how about a little hyperbole! The solution is not to marry your cousin or half-sister.
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