Posted on 04/24/2008 9:19:02 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
My standard, that is one originating from me, would also be arbitrary. An absolute standard would proceed from an absolute source. That source was at our founding God's law. It was the puritan Samuel Rutherford that wrote Lex Rex, providing the doctrine that we used to recite as "one nation under God" - ie under His sovereign rein. Ben Franklin said "either you will be ruled by God or by-god we would you be ruled"! and Alexis de Tocqueville "Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith".
And you continue to show your anti-LDS bigotry! Your accusation of me condoning these men caught with their pants down is unsubstantiated at best. Stop being foolish and show me some of my posts where I alledgedly show support for them. I’ll be waiting. Got straw/smoke?
Welcome to our world, where every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every year LDS are publishing & disseminating this Pearl of Great Price fictional tale about Christians:
LDS "Scripture": "I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were ALL wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that ALL their creeds were and abomination in his sight, that those professors were ALL corrupt.... (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith--History 1:19)
You said you don’t go “Catholic hunting” yet if you give to the LDS church, then you are delegating your “attacks” to LDS missionaries & the LDS publishing arm:
As you know, among the top 3-4 topics a missionary covers door to door is the so-called universal apostasy of all Christian sects and the “restoration” of the LDS Church built upon Joseph Smith’s hand-dug grave of Christianity. (I mean the flip side of almost every LDS “testimony” is that every non-LDS Church is the false church).
Your tithe pays for the Pearl of Great Price to be published & distributed worldwide. And that includes vv. 18-20 of JS-H. Your tithe pays for LDS curricula about the alleged apostasy & restoration. Your tithe sends 60,000+ missionaries around the world (yeah, I know most LDS families pay for their sons & daughters to be out & about, but somebody foots the bills of the missionary presidents’ stipends & the materials used, etc.)
Wow, your foolishness knows no bounds. I like the straight-forward way you dodge the issue! Show me one post in which I say they are allowed by the Constitution to do what they did? The whole post, not just some abstract, distorted line that you want to twist into what you believe is the truth. Good luck, Captain Integrity.
And so now you are linking the TX folks to LDS, thats an interesting turn.
See lockstep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockstep_marching
2) It will break many a freepers heart here if this is thrown out on a Constitutinal “technicality.” after all why should these cultist be left alone? it is the seriousness of the charge, not the truth of the evidence which was gathered in an “ends justify the means” style.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2006361/posts?page=29#29
3) I am LDS and also have sworn to uphold the constitution from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2006361/posts?page=38#38
Wow, your foolishness knows no bounds. I like the straight-forward way you dodge the issue! Show me one post in which I say they are allowed by the Constitution to do what they did? The whole post, not just some abstract, distorted line that you want to twist into what you believe is the truth. Good luck, Captain Integrity.
From your posting history above 1) you rank the personal freedom of these child rapists as protected from an overstepping government. 2) Here you state that the polygamy practiced there was constitutionally protected and 3) you indicate that the constitution is being violated by the government (as a DOMESTIC threat). So pithy replies from you pale in the face of what you are DEFENDING and so gross is your lack of understanding of the constitution it is borderline moronic. So again, which amendment permits 50 year old men to rape 14 year old girls under the guise of religion? Shouldn’t the constitutional RIGHTS of those children be considered? Or must these children be forced into marriage against their will in their early teens? I have yet to see you actually stand up and answer these questions. At least I have the integrity to call this wrong and the actions by TX officials’ right. What’s your excuse?
They might call up people and pretend to be a crazy 33 year old woman
Our fine soldiers in the armed forces march in lockstep, too. It isn’t always a pejorative.
Some of them even had ideas he liked ~ e.g. polygamy.
What you have to do is get past the official history and simply ask yourself "gee whiz, did America already have polygamous groups, even religious polygamous groups BEFORE the Mormons", and the answer is "Yes".
To start with for the first 40 years of European settlement on the East Coast the Indians set the standards and the most powerful Indians were the Iriquois. Those ol'boys got a new wife every Spring.
The Brotherton Indians "adapted", moved to town, and took their own marital standards with them.
Polygamy was common among the Indians and pirates who made up the majority of the population right up to the great winter of death circa 1648 (although some set it at 1644 I call for it a tad later since it only killed off a fraction each year until about 95% of the Eastern Seaboard and Ohio Valley Indians were dead).
Whites, who seemed to be somewhat immune to the diseases killing off the Indians in that period, had adapted themselves well to the Indian stanards of marital fidelity.
Does anyone seriously think those ol' boys gave it up?
The whalers didn't. They had a COTFB going down in South Texas shortly after the turn of the 18th Century.
Might write a book too.
I'd also like to know what the F(lds) has done with the old people.
LeBaron's niece was also on TV last week to be interviewed regarding these Mormon splinter groups ~ irrespective of whether they were RLDS or LDS. I thought it was interesting the network news folks had her on a list to contact so quickly.
Both. One for youth, talent, and promise, the other for the folly of substance abuse and wasting God's gifts.
[i]>> Texas Rangers conducted the raid, not the federal government.
...and as everyone knows, unlike the FBI and ATF, the Texas Rangers are conservatives, Republicans, and morally pure as the driven snow, so they simply can’t be in the wrong. I read that in a book about the Rio Grande battles, so it MUST be true.
>> Shame on all of you!
Say what? Who are you to tell me I should feel a sense of shame for taking the side of a group raided by an overreaching government on a “tip” from an insane person? Once I know all the facts — the FACTS, mind you, not what ABC says — I may change my mind. Until then — bite me, you self righteous a$$.[/i]
The Texas Rangers have had a mole in the compound for 4 years. Already 40 underage pregnancies have been identified. There will be prosecutions of underage sex, child abuse, welfare fraud and perhaps human trafficking (it is suspected that children have been transported from Bountiful, British Columbia without their parents).
Apparently, you care more about your right to privacy than the children’s rights. Neither privacy or religion provide an umbrella for pedophiles.
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