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When Will We Admit the Truth About Barack Obama?
American Thinker ^ | 4-24-08 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 04/24/2008 4:09:22 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: NavVet

“Fred for VP would give McCain, who had publicly opposed the overturning of Roe v. Wade, some pro-life street cred.”

Fred will be on H&C tonight at 9:00PM Eastern. :)


21 posted on 04/24/2008 5:33:16 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Renfield

Obama is a college sophmore applying for CEO. Unqualified.


22 posted on 04/24/2008 5:36:48 AM PDT by doodad
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To: kevinm13

“Obama is not fit to be dog catcher.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

He isn’t fit to operate a pooper scooper!


23 posted on 04/24/2008 5:42:32 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Renfield

WOW!


24 posted on 04/24/2008 5:42:46 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: LS
I understand what you're saying, and agree to a point.

But I'd add that while McCain's relatively pro-life position probably didn't movitate conservatives to vote for him in the primaries, it's likely one of the only reasons they'll vote for him in the general. The war also enters into it, obviously.

But if McCain were pro-abortion, he wouldn't get my vote in November. As it is, abortion and the war are the only reasons I can put the rest of his record aside long enough to pull the lever.
25 posted on 04/24/2008 5:43:46 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: LS
Rush noted an exit poll last week that listed the most important issues that shaped people's votes. The economy was #1 with about 40% of the public. Abortion and Global Warming were about #7 or #8, coming in at 1% or less.

That's an exit poll from a Democrat primary. Hillary and Hussein are both ardently into killing babies so naturally the Dems aren't concerned about abortion.

In the general election, however, abortion will be a bigger issue with independants. Obama's record on this will have an effect come November.

26 posted on 04/24/2008 5:51:47 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: LS
Recall it was not John Kerry's "vote" on the Iraq war that caused him such trouble, but the perception that he was a flip-flopper when he said he voted for the funding before he voted against it. I just think too many conservatives, especially the pro-life sort, see something like this and go "AHA." It doesn't work that way. Portraying Obama as being a "liberal," even an anti-life one, has limited effect.

It is one thing to remove a bunch of unrecognizable cells from someone's body. As the pregnancy gets later, more and more people have trouble with it. After a baby is born, 99.999% of the people find letting a baby die completely inhumane and repulsive. This will be a HUGE issue. And no matter what any polls say, being pro-life is still the #1 issue the GOP nets votes on. Hussein is so far out it left field on this issue, even hardcore lefties will have problems with it.

27 posted on 04/24/2008 6:07:37 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Well, I disagree. I’m pro-life, but would have had no trouble voting for Rudy over these two. And as a professor at a Catholic school who deals with the younger generation, who, supposedly, are more “pro-life” than in the past, I get a sense that it is less of an issue than ever with them.


28 posted on 04/24/2008 6:08:58 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I mis-wrote. It wasn’t an exit poll. It was a poll of what all voters list as the most important issues. I know this is very hard for conservatives to swallow, but the pro-life issue as a SINGLE voting issue is way down from what it was 10 years ago.


29 posted on 04/24/2008 6:10:21 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Renfield
Obama worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights.

Obama refused to protect babies who were born alive after an abortion. This is what the Nazis did....

30 posted on 04/24/2008 6:21:33 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: LS
I'm a pro-life Catholic. I attend the rally in DC every year, as well as local and regional events and vigils. The numbers of supporters are ever-increasing, with a larger and larger youth component.

And while the media often portray pro-life Christians as predominantly Catholic, it's my experience that the Baptist churches have a much more pronounced presence at such events.

Our parish has a school, but my children don't attend. My wife attended, and vehemently opposed sending our kids. Having a great deal of interaction with both public and catholic school student parents in parish activities, I can tell you for certain that the parents who are active in the church but don't send their kids to the school are far and away closer followers of the Catholic faith, both personally and politically.

I understand the reasons why the Catholic schools shifted to lay teachers, but in my opinion it hasn't had the effect of strengthening the faith instilled in the students, so I'm not surprised by your observations. I think many parents of Catholic school students take a "set it and forget it" approach to raising their kids Catholic. They figure they're sending their kids to Catholic school, so they're good to go.
31 posted on 04/24/2008 7:34:42 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Need4Truth

You’re right. Absolute garbage.


32 posted on 04/24/2008 9:10:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: LS
I don’t see that as being all that important. The pro-life issue, as a voting issue, has faded precipitously

Even if that were true, just think of the impact an "issue ad" with the following scenario could have:

Doctor (stripping off his mask after performing an abortion): Alright nurse, clean up this mess.

Nurse: Yes, doctor. Oh...wait. Uh, doctor? ... the...uh...fetus is breathing!

Doctor: Take it away with the rest of this mess. Put it in the broom closet.

Nurse: Yes, doctor.

[Nurse is shown bundling the infant hastily and hurrying out of the operating room.]

[Next scene: A door opens and the viewer sees a pair of hands shove the bundle onto a shelf in a broom closet. The door closes with a click. There is silence for a moment... then the viewer hears a tiny cough, then a weak cry.]

[Fade to black.]


33 posted on 04/24/2008 1:07:00 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Always Right
After a baby is born, 99.999% of the people find letting a baby die completely inhumane and repulsive. This will be a HUGE issue.

This is where McCain will not go, but where other groups needs to concentrate. The pro-life groups need to fund the commercials on this subject and Obama.

34 posted on 04/24/2008 1:19:41 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

What do you think about pro-life Catholics such as Judge Andrew Napolitano? Do you ever listen to the radio show Brian and the Judge? My jaw has dropped many times in the past few weeks as I’ve listened to Napolitano make every excuse in the world in defending Obama. He keeps raving about his remarkable speeches on race, and how it’s so unfair to dog Obama about his ties to Reverend Wright. Why is Napolitano so giddy about Obama, while at the same time claiming to be 100% pro-life? Is he that misinformed about Obama’s abortion voting record, or is Napolitano one of those “pro-lifers” who doesn’t think anyone’s vote should be solely based on a candidates position on that issue? Hard to figure out. Of course, Napolitano thinks there is nothing wrong with gay marriage, so perhaps his stance on abortion has changed as well.


35 posted on 04/24/2008 1:37:14 PM PDT by fox0566
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To: RouxStir
I agree. The "giving the benefit of the doubt" comment being made by the media and others is the one that irks me most. In court, it is said that the verdict of the jury should be made "beyond a reasonable doubt." Yet, people are willing to select our next POTUS when there are certainly "reasonable doubts" (and certainly reasonable proof of his anti-American, anti-life, anti-Christian, anti-guns, anti-white statements and voting record). This just stuns me.

So many voters look only for the schmaltz and charm in a candidate and no deeper. Obama is the clever wolf in sheep's clothing who knows that with such people perception is everything. So Obama poured it on and smooth-talked them, flashed his toothy grin, and acted like a lamb for months. He was able to charm everyone in the beginning and even as the sheep's clothing is wearing away, these dumbos still do not want to see the wolf bearing down on them. If that audacious wolf gets in the door of the Oval Office, there will certainly be no "hope" for this country.

36 posted on 04/24/2008 1:45:22 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Renfield

BUMP-TO-THE-TRUTH!


37 posted on 04/24/2008 2:08:00 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Renfield

Obama has already given a blank stare to some questions and rebuffed them by saying he’ll hire people smarter than him to handle economics.

So why aren’t we electing those great minds instead?


38 posted on 04/24/2008 2:23:57 PM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: shhrubbery!
In the first place, no one would run such an ad; in the second place, there would be MANY people so revulsed at the tastelessness that they probably would not vote "for" your candidate.

The fetus-in-jars people have done more harm to the pro-life movement than any 10 abortionists.

39 posted on 04/24/2008 2:29:51 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: shhrubbery!

I am pro-life and I would absolutely reject any candidate who ran such an ad. But, we will never see such an ad.


40 posted on 04/24/2008 2:44:04 PM PDT by Space Moose
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