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Attorneys object to sect children's foster placement
Chron.com ^ | 4-23-08C | LISA SANDBERG

Posted on 04/23/2008 12:02:27 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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Take a look at one of the facilities some of the kids are going to, pics are on the right hand side.

It looks like a lovely place.

1 posted on 04/23/2008 12:02:28 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: NYpeanut; the808bass; brytlea; pandoraou812; ricks_place; CindyDawg; Huntress; Pebcak; ...

PING!!

FReepmail to be added to the FLDS El Dorado Legal Case Ping List


2 posted on 04/23/2008 12:03:05 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Politicalmom

Meanwhile back at the ranch....

Subpoenas to see whether sect’s $100M trust was drained to fund YFZ Ranch, improvements

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/23/subpoenas-to-see-whether-sects-100m-trust-was-to/


3 posted on 04/23/2008 12:11:42 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Politicalmom

Can you put me on the list?


4 posted on 04/23/2008 12:19:13 PM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Politicalmom
The attorneys will appear before state District Judge Barbara Walther, who yesterday ordered that the 437 children seized from their parents be placed in foster care once each child underwent DNA testing.


5 posted on 04/23/2008 12:20:06 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon

Yep.


6 posted on 04/23/2008 12:32:27 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Politicalmom

It does look like a lovely place to you or me. However, to those children who most likely just want their mom(s) and siblings, there are going to be some scary things there that will reinforce the teaching they have had.

Tinkerbell on the wall and a book of fairy tales on the dresser: the sect believes that both are of the Devil and this will reinforce the view that everything outside the compound is evil.

I suspect Spiderman will have the same effect.

Competitive games, like Foozball, are another thing these kids have been taught to avoid.

I’m not sure why they could not have removed the men from the compound and done the tests and such in place.

I do not agree with their beliefs and lifestyle, but this looks like the same sort of trumped up charge that brought about Waco. I have to wonder if they will use this “success” to start going after home schoolers or other “misfits” next.


7 posted on 04/23/2008 12:42:31 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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They had no legal right to move the men anywhere, unless they were under arrest.


8 posted on 04/23/2008 12:44:27 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Ingtar

You consider a temple document listing underage rapes as being
“trumped up”?

Multiple underage pregnancies, and testimony of statutory rape is “trumped up”?


9 posted on 04/23/2008 12:46:07 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Politicalmom

What are they doing? This is crazy. This is wrong.


10 posted on 04/23/2008 12:46:51 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Howdy there

Ok, you’re on.


11 posted on 04/23/2008 12:47:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Pebcak

What’s the old saying, “If they say it’s not about the money, it’s about the money?”

When all the dust settles, this will be about claiming an $8.8 million judgment; and, enough salacious material to keep Nancy and Greta busy for years to come.


12 posted on 04/23/2008 12:51:54 PM PDT by burroak
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Rolfe noted that parents, ''or individuals who assert themselves to be parents," must submit to testing.

But she added that, at this stage, ''we're not going to force them to do it.''

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Crappy news source + crappy reporter + crappy writing = ... crap.

13 posted on 04/23/2008 12:54:23 PM PDT by delacoert
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They don't know who their mom's or siblings are.... traditionally in FLDS sects, they aren't allowed to play either, or have pets.

And then there is the delight of entering puberty---where (tradtionally and via oral testimony) the boys get tossed out for 'getting hair down there' and the girls have the delight of experiencing their first period, followed by having someone like this 'marry them'

And introduce them to sex... as he's been convicted of doing and as his followers continue to do....

So yeah, you're talkin' about taking them away from heaven./sarc

14 posted on 04/23/2008 12:58:11 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Politicalmom
They had no legal right to move the men anywhere, unless they were under arrest.

If they had approached them with this alternative and the men truly believed as they say they do, they would have accepted the alternative. If not, that is more evidence against their motives.

15 posted on 04/23/2008 12:59:50 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Ingtar; Politicalmom

I heard the kids were ask what they did for fun. Pulling weeds and feeding chickens.

The trouble with leaving the kids and women at the ranch; They might not be there the next time the authorities check.


16 posted on 04/23/2008 1:01:07 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Politicalmom

Their reasons for going in came from a faked phone call with obvious errors in the information. That raid resulted in the information you bring up. I was speaking to their original zeal to find a way in the door and not what they found later.


17 posted on 04/23/2008 1:02:00 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Politicalmom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2005898/posts

New article


18 posted on 04/23/2008 1:02:42 PM PDT by Howdy there
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So yeah, you're talkin' about taking them away from heaven./sarc

No... I'm talking about perhaps they should have taken some more steps to allow the children to feel more secure and at ease before they hit them with even more, to them, alien concepts.

19 posted on 04/23/2008 1:04:24 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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” do not agree with their beliefs and lifestyle, but this looks like the same sort of trumped up charge that brought about Waco.”


What about the convictions against the cult so far? Their leader was just sentenced in Utah five months ago and arrived for new trials in Arizona the other day, all for leading the practices of the cult, the charges are rape.

He is the guy who’s picture hangs over the kids beds.

Other members have been convicted and face trial for the “marriages”


20 posted on 04/23/2008 1:04:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS , Don't mess with Texas.)
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