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Oregon attorney slaps a policeman with an illegal parking complaint
The Canadian Press ^ | 19 Apr 2008 | The Canadian Press

Posted on 04/22/2008 7:23:04 PM PDT by BGHater

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To: count-your-change
Ah..I see, your wife received a ticket, unjustified in your view, even though there was a way to prevent it or undo it after the fact, and now you just can't let it go.

No, that's just the latest example of police zealotry I've experienced in my life.

I've also been falsely charged (and jailed) by zealots like the example above, which required that I hire a lawyer to fight the charges.

If receiving a ticket is the greatest injustice you experience in life you will be the most blessed human alive. In short, it's history, get over it, learn from it, get on with your life. You'll be a better person. Good day!

No, a greater injustice is being arrested and jailed, having to hire a lawyer to fight the charges only to have the cops lies exposed on the stand and the charges dismissed. Other than a verbal dressing down by the judge, the cop(s) faced no sanctions or penalties.

I have learned from these experiences. And two strongest lessons are:

1) Don't trust any cop. There's two types of cops in this world. Those who've been caught in their lies and those who have yet to be caught.

2) No matter what a cop does, or bad his behavior, there will always be apologists who take their side.

It surprises me not in the least that you avoided my questions in my last post. De minimus, indeed.

81 posted on 04/23/2008 10:47:35 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I didn’t answer your questions because I have no idea why many things are done or not done and you know this as well as I do.
Here’s a question for you, if you were the victim of a false arrest did you file a civil suit? What were you arrested for? DUI? Speeding? Disorderly conduct?
I’d really like to know, what was it?


82 posted on 04/23/2008 10:57:20 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
I didn’t answer your questions because I have no idea why many things are done or not done and you know this as well as I do.

I didn't ask you why things are done or not done. You made the statement that it's pointless to be so picky about cops who commit seemingly inconsequential infractions, such as parking violations.

I asked if these laws are so inconsequential, as you assert, then why are they on the books and why are they enforced?

The answer is that they have nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with being a profit center for municipalities.

That is why the seat belt laws went from being a secondary infraction, which are insufficient ground for which to pull over a motorist, to being changed to a primary infraction, by which a cop may pull over a motorist who has violated no other laws or statutes.

I’d really like to know, what was it?

Why?

83 posted on 04/23/2008 11:16:04 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Why not? You used the example of your arrest as a basis for distrust of police so why not say what the charge was and make your argument even more convincing?
No one here is going to be judgmental or shocked. So come on, what was it? It’s a public record so no secrecy is involved, so tell us, what was it? Please.


84 posted on 04/23/2008 11:22:38 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
No one here is going to be judgmental or shocked. So come on, what was it? It’s a public record so no secrecy is involved, so tell us, what was it? Please.

You've already shown yourself to be judgemental when you characterized as sour grapes my displeasure over my wife's ticket and the steps we're going to have to take to get the charge dismissed.

85 posted on 04/23/2008 11:35:51 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Pure Country

fire trucks do goto the store and check different things all the time. Just because they are not on the road as much doesn’t mean they don’t park.


86 posted on 04/23/2008 12:15:10 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
fire trucks do goto the store and check different things all the time. Just because they are not on the road as much doesn’t mean they don’t park.

I'm sorry, but I can't think of the last time I saw a firetruck cruising around looking for the next fire or the cat up a tree. Firemen have their job and it is in the firehouse preparing for the next fire. When they come off of a call, they have a lot to do to be ready for the next time out. Policeman patrol non-stop. No comparison to me.

87 posted on 04/23/2008 1:37:17 PM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Pure Country
Around my area in California LA they check fire hydrants and places of business for fire violations. When I do see them park at the stores or food take out I never seen them park illegally. I actually notice they park a good distance from the store.

why do I never see a cop park a good distance from the store?

I do believe the fireman is much safer. The reason is for example I see cops park at a large store he will park right in front of the store in the red areas. So when he leaves he has to go through the parking lot. The fire trucks will park in such a way they don't need to drive though the parking lot to leave.

88 posted on 04/23/2008 1:51:31 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Don’t be touchy, You were innocent of the charges were you not? But if you don’t want to say, so be it. So have a good day.


89 posted on 04/23/2008 2:11:58 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Don’t be touchy, You were innocent of the charges were you not? But if you don’t want to say, so be it. So have a good day.

I'm not being touchy.

Why should I share personal info with someone who refuses to answer my questions honestly?

I posted a link to video of a NYC meter maid who parked her police vehicle in front of a fire hydrant while eating lunch in a restaurant and then driving away while ignoring the seat belt laws, both of which are laws ordinary citizens are compelled to obey.

I asked you if this was also de minimus and you blithely ignored my question and responded that you couldn't answer the why's and wherefore's.

FRegards,

90 posted on 04/23/2008 2:39:12 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Now be fair here, You didn’t answer about why you were arrested after bringing said arrest up.
You can give a private reply if you don’t want everyone to know. Since you were innocent what’s the harm?
But if not I’ll understand just as you should understand I’ve no more time for you.


91 posted on 04/23/2008 3:00:25 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Now be fair here, You didn’t answer about why you were arrested after bringing said arrest up.

Yes, let's be fair. I asked first. (#78) Your question came afterward. (#82)

92 posted on 04/23/2008 3:50:26 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

“..he could have picked another restaurant to eat at.”

This is probably the one where he gets his 25% police discount.


93 posted on 04/23/2008 3:57:09 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I have no more time for you.


94 posted on 04/23/2008 4:24:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; All

Cops spend 6-8 hours a day in police cars, dealing with people at their worst and writing reports on their steering wheels.

I’m willing to let them have a small one here and there.

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I agree- give the guys (cops) a little break!

I can’t believe some of the hostility I have been reading here directed toward this cop who took a few minutes (3-4-5??) to pick up his dinner ... to eat in the police car with his attention set on his call radio to respond to any emergency that might arise at any moment!

Think about it, folks... Would it have made more sense for this cop to have parked a half block or more away from his car- in the event he had to respond to an emergency call?

Most people who are dining out are doing it on their own time- their FREE time. A cop doesn’t have that luxury. They are on duty at all times during their shift! They do not have the option of ‘stopping the clock’ for the dinner hour- or even the dinner 10 minutes!

BTW- I think 12 hour shifts are more usual than 8 hours- it was that way in the past that I’m remembering!

My husband was a cop for many years and I know how a cop’s life is...long hours, low pay, very often, missed holidays with family, and dealing more and more with the negativity of the public!

The lawyer had ‘little to do’ to take it upon himself to cause this policeman this grief, and for something so minor!

June K


95 posted on 04/23/2008 5:20:15 PM PDT by June K.
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To: count-your-change
Why not?

Because they are citizens just like the rest of us, only they don't think so.

96 posted on 04/23/2008 7:40:19 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: CindyDawg
You talking about lawyers or cops?

Both, but mainly cops.

97 posted on 04/23/2008 7:43:45 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: June K.
The lawyer had ‘little to do’ to take it upon himself to cause this policeman this grief, and for something so minor!

That's probably because the sleazeball lawyer wanted that illegal parking space in front of the restaurant for HIMSELF! .. and was annoyed when a Cop car was parked there instead .... /laughs

Sure, there are some bad Cops, but in proportion there are a whole lot more legions of sleazy lawyers than there are bad Cops.

MM

98 posted on 04/24/2008 5:57:46 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: BGHater; jazusamo; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ...
Oregon Ping!


99 posted on 04/24/2008 6:02:19 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Renegade conservative, now registered as a 'Rat, in support of Operation Chaos.)
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To: count-your-change

‘The police are regulated and monitored and scrutinized, perhaps not to the degree you think they should be but nevertheless they are.’

i get stuck on that part. i think they should be held more accountable. checks and balamces should filter down through our whole democratic/republican system, as this is a founding principle of our self governing system.

as an average citizen, we have little recourse in an injustice done to us by those who hold even the slightest amount of power over us.


100 posted on 04/25/2008 4:43:55 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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