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Texas judge asks LDS Church to monitor FLDS prayer times
Desert News ^ | April 21, 2008 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 04/21/2008 6:19:21 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: yldstrk

We’ve allowed gay marriage. The UK allows muslims to have more than one wife. We will soon here in america as well I suspect. But oh no. NOt the wacky mormons fringe loonies. THey aren’t allowed.

Why? Because they’re white christians. Double standard.

Don’t even try to deny it.


21 posted on 04/21/2008 6:52:24 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre

Give me a break.


22 posted on 04/21/2008 6:54:17 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: mamelukesabre

Jim Jones’cult was worshipped by the media and the politicians, same for the Oaklan’s Your Muslim Bakery Cult. What’s the difference? You said it — it’s an unindicted sexual crime to be a white man today!


23 posted on 04/21/2008 6:56:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 tears!)
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To: yldstrk

We both know it’s true. You just too blinded by your latent feminist rage to admit it.


24 posted on 04/21/2008 6:58:46 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: org.whodat

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have nothing to do with the FLDS church. Actually, they abhor this behavior as well. Just saying...


25 posted on 04/21/2008 7:01:20 PM PDT by andiesmom
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To: andiesmom; org.whodat
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have nothing to do with the FLDS church. Actually, they abhor this behavior as well.

Actually, that's part of the problem. LDS are all throughout Utah, including its law enforcement network. According to author B. Carmon Hardy, in his book, A Solemn Covenant, ...since the 1960s, there has been a clear and seemingly purposeful decline in the number of prosecutions brought against polygamous fundamentalists living in Arizona and Utah. (pp. 344-345)

Beyond that, the two groups are distinct with different "prophets," leaders & its interpretation of D&C 132.

26 posted on 04/21/2008 7:04:47 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: greyfoxx39

Yep. And to hell with the rights of the mothers and the children! THE JUDGE KNOWS BEST!


27 posted on 04/21/2008 7:07:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Will88; DannyTN
"She said the children were taught to not tell outsiders who their parents were, to avoid providing any info that would aid authorities in proving that polygamous relationships existed.

You keep repeating that, but you leave out the more serious practice that teaching the children to lie conceals, and that is the practice that has most of us so bothered, the child rape. The conditioning of a lifetime of lying also is necessary for other daily practices of the cult related to financial dealings and the illegal polygamy, it also isolates the children by teaching them that communication is only for within the cult never with people that are outsiders.

28 posted on 04/21/2008 7:07:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS supporters, at least pretend to be repulsed by the child rape that has been proved.)
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To: mamelukesabre

You may consider these folks to be Christians.

I don’t.


29 posted on 04/21/2008 7:07:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: yldstrk

“Besides, they rescued the kids, including the dhildren mothers, some of whom were pregnant and took them away from their abusers. I have no probemo with that, kemosabe.”

They “rescued” 416 children and many mothers. Precisely what were all 416 children rescued from? Each child and mother has separate and individual rights.

Few if any of those children were in imminent danger. They rounded them all up to extract evidence from them since they had no credible evidence for initiating the action in the first place. Their tipster disappeared on them, and from what most sources say now, the tipster has a history of providing false, anonymous charges.

The state is running loose at present, but their action will be subject to review. There are far more humane ways to investigate suspected polygamous relationships than making innocent children and mothers bear the brunt of the state’s ham handed actions.


30 posted on 04/21/2008 7:10:00 PM PDT by Will88
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To: yldstrk

I am really torn between being sympathetic to the women and children who may have had their civil rights suspended during this process and siding with alot of posters on the flds threads that have already judged everybody guilty . I read that cell phones were confiscated from women that were not being charged with a crime...young kids being separated from mothers{what happened to the right of a parent to be present when their minor child is questioned}. the judge not allowing mothers to nurse their babies, yeah nursing will probably compromise the whole investigation!
I am troubled by the girl that made the initial call{where is she}....dont get me wrong I do not condone illegal activity however it appears that law trumps civil rights. I have never been arrested or booked but it seems to me that a person is treated as guilty until you can prove your innocence


31 posted on 04/21/2008 7:11:01 PM PDT by ditch bank guru (yet there are soulless men whose hand and mind tear down what time will never give again!!)
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To: ansel12

All excellent points, and yet amazingly there are some here who believe the judge has absolutely no basis to hold the children.


32 posted on 04/21/2008 7:14:55 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Will88

thank you will
hear hear


33 posted on 04/21/2008 7:19:10 PM PDT by ditch bank guru (yet there are soulless men whose hand and mind tear down what time will never give again!!)
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To: mamelukesabre; yldstrk
But oh no. NOt the wacky mormons fringe loonies. THey aren’t allowed. Why? Because they’re white christians. Double standard.

They may be white, but they are neither Christians nor Mormons.

BTW I do believe that they still use the Book of Mormon that says that Indians were cursed with a dark skin, but if they become good Mormons they eventually will become "White and Delightsome".

So maybe you should rephrase your comment to say that its because "they're be white and delightsome."

Don’t even try to deny it.

I just did. What are you going to do about it?

34 posted on 04/21/2008 7:21:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: DannyTN

A cult is a group with a single mind and it is united in purpose and is closed to outsiders, it is especially closed to routine law enforcement.

In a cult that has mothers, fathers, and children only and the crimes they are suspected of are of the mothers and fathers conspiring to breed children, isolate them and brainwash them for rape and continued polygamous relationships to feed the enclosed cycles, then the only way to stand a chance of breaking the cycles and the rapes, is to act as Texas has.

We are not an impotent nation and it is not beyond our abilities to deal with this (or had better not be), and Texas has decided to confront it and try to save children.


35 posted on 04/21/2008 7:27:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS supporters, at least pretend to be repulsed by the child rape that has been proved.)
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To: andiesmom
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have nothing to do with the FLDS church. Actually, they abhor this behavior as well. Just saying...

Fine, then the church needs to demand that the governor and the attorney of the state put an end to it once and for all.

But instead you have all the Mormon's here defending this cult !!!!!

36 posted on 04/21/2008 7:28:26 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: yldstrk
God wouldn’t want this kind of sick set up believe me. I happen to have a deep relationship with God, in case you want to know.

You know, statements like this one bother me almost as much as child-molesting polygamist cults do.

Any man that claims to know the mind of God is an idiot, a fool, or insufferably arrogant. Or all of the above.

37 posted on 04/21/2008 7:30:40 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: yldstrk
I ain’t “bud” I am a mean old lady.

I bet you are sweet when no one is looking. :^)

38 posted on 04/21/2008 7:33:21 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat
But instead you have all the Mormon's here defending this cult !!!!!

That is kinda weird, isn't it. They have no qualms about condemning all of us ex-Mormon freepers and yet they seem to have a lot of sympathy for these "Apostates" who practice what the LDS Church only preaches.

39 posted on 04/21/2008 7:34:34 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Will88

Exactly.


40 posted on 04/21/2008 7:34:47 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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