Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: BGHater; wideawake
I hate to bring details to the love fest, but Paul's great theory has always lacked one thing, details as to HOW (something Phil Gramm chastised Paul for regarding why his bills don't make it out of committee). I am not just referring to statements such as what you've posted, but the actual bills to accomplish these things. For example, Paul has sponsored over and over a bill to eliminate the Income Tax and IRS- the latest incarnation is H. J. RES. 23, 110th Congress, February 7, 2007.

__________________________________________________________

Proposing an amendment the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article --

`Section 1. The Government of the United States shall not engage in any business, professional, commercial, financial, or industrial enterprise except as specified in the Constitution.

`Section 2. The constitution or laws of any State, or the laws of the United States, shall not be subject to the terms of any foreign or domestic agreement which would abrogate this amendment.

`Section 3. The activities of the United States Government which violate the intent and purposes of this amendment shall, within a period of three years from the date of the ratification of this amendment, be liquidated and the properties and facilities affected shall be sold.

`Section 4. Three years after the ratification of this amendment the sixteenth article of amendments to the Constitution of the United States shall stand repealed and thereafter Congress shall not levy taxes on personal incomes, estates, and gifts

________________________________________________________

As William F Buckley put it, all roar, no teeth. Paul makes these great(sic) speeches on theory, yet is unable to accomplish a thing because he never can take what he says beyond theory to actual real world implementation. This bill to abolish the income tax (through a Constitutional Amendment) has zero "Hows". No budgetary considerations, no departmental reorganizations, no listing of laws and departments that need to be changed, no revenue shifting, nothing. If you look at other bills sponsored by other Congressmen, to accomplish a lot less, you'll see that they include these details, and thus, get out of committee because they are something that can actually be implemented.

29 posted on 04/22/2008 7:36:56 AM PDT by mnehring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: mnehrling

He also has a pending bill that outlaws pain and sorrow and funds it through a complete deregulation of joy.


31 posted on 04/22/2008 8:38:19 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

To: mnehrling
This bill to abolish the income tax (through a Constitutional Amendment) has zero "Hows". No budgetary considerations, no departmental reorganizations, no listing of laws and departments that need to be changed, no revenue shifting, nothing.

Heaven forbid that the federal government do without its revenue "fix" for a few days while our elected representatives figure that out.

42 posted on 04/22/2008 8:07:05 PM PDT by elkfersupper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

To: mnehrling
Of course it does. That is because, unlike the current practice of including everything under the sun in a single War-and-Peace-sized monster bill, each bill proposed piece of legislation is supposed to include one and only one subject. What to do about spending is entirely another subject, however much inter-related. Are you seriously going to tell me, though, that Paul has not also proposed any spending cuts whatsoever?

The reason Paul's bills don't make it out of committee isn't because they lack details. It is for the same reason that an alchoholic doesn't admit his disease and seek counseling until physically forced to. It is because, like the junkie, the federal government is out of control. Look at Section 1 below. Do you seriously think that Congress would one day turn on a dime and suddenly not do anything that is not Constitutionally authorized? You'd have riots in the street burning to the heavens before the ink was even dry. Washington DC runs everything: the nation, and the world (for now). Bills like what Paul is proposing would make them stop, and when you break any delusion that fast, the snap back to reality is some kind of bitch.

That's why his bills don't make it out of committee, and that is why he became invisible running for president. Even Ann Coulter stated that she couldn't listen to Paul because she was too afraid he might be right. Ignore the problem, and it will go away, right? (Kinda of like how you ignored the questions I had about your recent theory).

Well, ignoring the problem has brought us... God, what hasn't it brought us? Rome is burning, my friend. Unless immolation is on your to-do list for the day, it's time to stop pretending that the sun is just really warm today.

62 posted on 04/24/2008 2:10:08 PM PDT by pupdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson