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Texas LDS deal with confusion
Deseret News ^ | 04/21/2008 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 04/21/2008 7:29:14 AM PDT by JRochelle

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To: Diamond
I didn't know that.

They will try to say some came back, but the circumstances are questionable at the very least.

301 posted on 04/23/2008 5:56:41 PM PDT by Godzilla (We are the land of the free because of the brave.)
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To: MizSterious

I got this one the other day. It was a simple one line.

“Does your mother still run out from under the front porch and bite the mailman on the ankle?”


302 posted on 04/23/2008 6:48:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS , Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: dmw
Calling people here buttholes???? What’s with this???

Consider the source.

303 posted on 04/23/2008 7:02:06 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: dmw

Deleted image? No, it does not look familiar.


304 posted on 04/23/2008 7:16:03 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Diamond

Hysterical!!! Love it :)


305 posted on 04/23/2008 7:27:04 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: colorcountry

“Maybe OMM has a “challenge” that the rest of us don’t know about, but that management is well aware of.
We should be particulary kind to him. He is in desperate need of understanding.”

You make a good point. ;^)


307 posted on 04/23/2008 7:33:50 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Graybeard58

“Consider the source. “

Yeah, I need to be reminded of that sometimes, especially when it comes to dealing with this idiot.


308 posted on 04/23/2008 7:42:00 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dmw
Man, I sure hope I don't have to do another MOTION FOR MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT.

Cordially,

309 posted on 04/23/2008 8:38:49 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: JRochelle

[In repeated statements, leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have differentiated between the two faiths and expressed disappointment that some news media outlets have lumped the two together.]

Both trace their doctrinal roots directly to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, both unrepentant polygamists. But other than that, they are as distinct as the Presbyterians and Methodists.


311 posted on 04/23/2008 9:49:31 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Old Mountain man

[50 plus wives? That is a definite lie of commission.]

Yes, you should stop lying OldMountainMan. Apparently there were actually 55.

Brigham Young’s Wives and
His Divorce From Ann Eliza Webb

In 1868 Brigham Young, at age sixty-seven, married Ann Eliza Webb, an attractive twenty-four year old divorcee with two children. Young had already married dozens of other women. LDS scholar Jeffery Johnson, writing on Brigham Young and his wives, explained:

“Sixteen women gave birth to Brigham Young’s fifty-seven children; Emmeline Free had ten; six wives had only one child. The oldest child, Elizabeth Young Ellsworth, was fifty-two at Brigham’s death and the youngest, Fannie Young Clayton, was seven. Eleven of the sixteen women survived him. None of the women who bore him children canceled their sealings or remarried....

“The first documented divorce was from Mary Woodward on 13 December 1846, his wife of less than a year. In a brief but warm letter that day, he wrote: “In answer to your letter of yesterday, the 12 inst; I will say, you may consider yourself discharged from me and my counsel” and added that he would be glad to help her if she and her children were ever hungry (Brigham Young papers).

“Divorce records are sketchy for the emigration period, but two women who had been sealed to him in the Nauvoo Temple left him then to marry other men. ...

“On 18 June 1851 Mary Ann Clark Powers wrote from Kanesville, Iowa: “I wish you to release me from all engagements with you for time and eternity....” (Brigham Young papers). This request was granted.

“After the Church began recording divorces in 1851, Mary Ann Turley and Mary Jane Bigelow obtained divorces in 1851, Eliza Babcock in 1853, and Elizabeth Fairchild in 1855 (Divorce Certificates, Brigham Young papers). They were under twenty when they married Brigham Young and had never become part of his household. They all remarried; and Mary Jane, Eliza, and Elizabeth remained in Utah. “Almost twenty years later in 1873, Ann Eliza Webb applied for a civil divorce. The case came to trial in 1875, and the court ordered Brigham to pay $500 per month allowance and $3,000 court costs. When he refused, he was fined $25 and sentenced to a day in prison for contempt of court (Arrington 1985, 373). There is no record of application for a Church divorce, but she was excommunicated 10 October 1874 and devoted much of the rest of her life to publishing her somewhat sensational memoirs and giving anti-Mormon lectures.

“Twenty-one of Brigham Young’s fifty-five wives had never been married, six were separated or divorced from their husbands, sixteen were widows, and six had living husbands from whom divorces had apparently not been obtained. Marital information is unavailable for six.

“From a twentieth-century perspective, the polyandrous marriages seem most problematic. Three of these women (Mary Ann Clark Powers, Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner, and Hannah Tapfield King) were married to non-Mormons, which meant, according to the theological understanding of the times, that their salvation could not be assured. Mary Ann Clark Powers, married to Brigham Young 15 January 1845, later said she had not “bin a wife to” Powers after the sealing and expressed relief when Powers went to California. She received a divorce from Brigham Young in 1851 (Powers toYoung, 18 June 1851, Brigham Young papers).” (Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, (”Defining ‘Wife’: The Brigham Young Households,” by Jeffrey Johnson, 1987, Vol. 20, No. 3, p.62-63)


312 posted on 04/23/2008 10:02:59 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: davisfh

[”Bigot”

A person of strong conviction or prejudice, especially in matters of race, religion or politics, who is intolerant of those who differ with him.

“Bigotry”

The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance. ]

Yeah, we’ve all heard that Bigot term before thrown around. Personally, I wear it with pride compared to, say, being an APOLOGIST FOR INCESTUOUS CHILD RAPISTS.

Compared to that, bigot isn’t a heavy burden.


313 posted on 04/23/2008 10:08:33 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: dmw

“Yeah, many of us can’t figure out why OMM is getting away with saying stuff that others could never get away with. “

I am also curious about the 18 plus posts of the same cut and paste. Not that I mind, it sort of makes the point about not having anything useful to say.


314 posted on 04/23/2008 10:19:35 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Diamond

You have waaaaaaayyyyy too much time on your hands!


315 posted on 04/23/2008 10:55:35 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: dmw; MizSterious

“Yeah, many of us can’t figure out why OMM is getting away with saying stuff that others could never get away with. I have no clue as to why there is this double standard. Maybe he gives a lot of money to FR, who knows?”


I think the reason is that if they banned everyone who made personal attacks on the FLDS threads, there wouldn’t be any posters left.

OR, they figured they were wasting their time trying to stop it.

The FLDS subject is one of the hottest I have seen, and contains all the RED FLAG Subjects in one place.

RAPE
GOVERNMENT ABUSE
CPS ABUSE
WELFARE SCAMS
RELIGION
AIRPLANES (yes, airplanes)
PRISON
INBREEDING
MENTAL RETARDATION
HOAX PHONE CALLS
THROWAWAY CHILDREN (the lost boys)
CHILD BRIDES
NAZI’S
POLYGAMY
INCEST
PEDERASTERY
PEDOPHILIA
HOMOSEXUAL RAPE
GOD
SATAN
WACO and the DAVIDIANS
The McMartin Case (whatever that is?)
UNMARKED GRAVES
GLOBAL WARMING (ok, I made that one up)


316 posted on 04/23/2008 11:59:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: UCANSEE2

Darn it.

Seems I missed CREATION VS EVOLUTION


317 posted on 04/24/2008 12:01:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: Diamond

“Man, I sure hope I don’t have to do another MOTION FOR MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT.”

As do we all.


318 posted on 04/24/2008 12:05:20 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: Diamond
My family has been attending FReep-Anon for several years now.

Hi!

My name (screen) is ELSIE; and I am a Freeper.

319 posted on 04/24/2008 3:21:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dmw
Can you see the image?

Nope - Using Windows® Explorer

320 posted on 04/24/2008 3:23:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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