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My Life in a Polygamist Compound
Slate ^ | 04/16/08 | Torie Bosch

Posted on 04/18/2008 8:38:05 AM PDT by DFG

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To: SkyPilot

Read the affidavit. And please, read it with a critical eye just once.

This all started with a phone call from a mystery woman who cannot be found. She claimed to be two weeks pregnant. I’ve never met a woman in my life who knew they were pregnant at two weeks. The person stated they were treated at the local hospital. Did the authorities verify any of this?


401 posted on 04/18/2008 11:34:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Bud, do you value your home and the sanctity of your property? Do you realize you are one phone call away from having people break down your door and take your children?

Uggggh.

I can't even read the rest.

This is not Waco in the 90's, and you cannot see the forest for the trees.

402 posted on 04/18/2008 11:34:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SkyPilot

From your postings, I’m surprised you could read that far.

Later...


403 posted on 04/18/2008 11:35:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne
From your postings, I’m surprised you could read that far.

From your attitude, I would be very surprised if you could theologically respond to post #400.

404 posted on 04/18/2008 11:36:44 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: wardaddy

Actually, she said she was “several” weeks pregnant. She could easily have known at 3-5 weeks.


405 posted on 04/18/2008 11:37:20 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: DoughtyOne

She did NOT claim to be two weeks pregnant. She said “several”.


406 posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:26 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: wardaddy

“My great X4 was sort of a polygamist..maybe he was actually a bigamist...”


LOL, I spilled a little of my drink because of that one.

Skim that link and jump in anywhere when you get the urge to post and you will be in THE class for learning about Mormonism related to the issues you raised.

Wait till you start trying to ask questions and unravel contradictions, you will be surprised.


407 posted on 04/18/2008 11:41:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS supporters, at least pretend to be repulsed by the child rape that has been proved.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Politicalmom
I’ve never met a woman in my life who knew they were pregnant at two weeks.

Read the affidavit. And please, read it with a critical eye just once.

How "critical" was your eye?

Politicalmom : Actually, she said she was “several” weeks pregnant. She could easily have known at 3-5 weeks. She did NOT claim to be two weeks pregnant. She said “several”.

408 posted on 04/18/2008 11:46:31 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: ansel12; DoughtyOne
What point are you trying to make by posting this chart? Note that the statistics exclude anyone under the age of 15.


409 posted on 04/18/2008 11:49:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Politicalmom

That is correct. It is a strange way to describe a just discovered pregnancy IMO. Several is more than three. So this person was a month pregnant, maybe more, but refered to it as several weeks. It still doesn’t sound like something someone would say who is actually pregnant.


410 posted on 04/18/2008 11:50:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: SkyPilot

Excellent analysis. So the girl who is a month pregnant stated she was several weeks pregnant. I’m buying that one.


411 posted on 04/18/2008 11:51:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

He posted that as an indicator of the age of marrige for young women in those time frames. I asked for more time so I could develop a broader resource. If you’ll note, the number of families is rather small.

With this small a data base, this may have been an elite family whose stats may not be anything close to what a broad spectrum of stats might reveal.


412 posted on 04/18/2008 11:54:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Pregnancies are nearly always described by weeks, not months.

Women are pregnant for about 40 weeks, NOT nine months.

If a woman knew she was pregnant, but not exactly how far along, she could easily use “several weeks”. This is especially true since these girls are not educated and probably don’t know how to figure a conception date.


413 posted on 04/18/2008 11:55:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: DoughtyOne; 1000 silverlings; Alice in Wonderland; aMorePerfectUnion; ansel12; bonfire; brytlea; ...
Just because the folks at the arm are miscreants and worse, I don’t think we should sign off on fishing expeditions in order to enforce the law. If at a later date the girl is found and the call can be verified, I’ll be glad to eat my hat.

You see, your post is about what ticks your off - about you. You are not being hurt here. It is all about YOU.

You are not being raped.

You are not being told what to wear.

You are not being controlled.

To You - it is all about some precedent being set where the Evil Government will come into your home and find your Whatever.

I don't like some things the US Gov't does either pal - on Abortion, Gun Control, or Taxes - but I will be DAMNED if I will defend child abuse on account of it.

That is the difference between you and me.


414 posted on 04/18/2008 11:59:29 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: DoughtyOne
This all started with a phone call from a mystery woman who cannot be found.

I recall seeing Warren Jeffs in an orange jumpsuit long before this raid, and believe the authorities had much, much more on the molestation aspect of this case than "a phone call."

415 posted on 04/18/2008 11:59:41 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Politicalmom

I believe that is a reasoned response. I’m not sure it’s an accurate response. Some girls refer to weeks and others refer to months, so I guess your observation makes as much sense as mine.

“A few weeks” is very non-specific. It could mean about four to ten weeks. The dictionary refers to the top end of few as many. I’m not sure what I would refer to as many weeks pregnant.

Thanks for your comments.


416 posted on 04/19/2008 12:01:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: SkyPilot

Skypilot, I can’t tell you how impressed I am by your membership in the Deity. Do I genuflect or bow?

Please let me know.

BTW, the Constitution trumps your rant.


417 posted on 04/19/2008 12:04:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It doesn't matter he isn't conservative. Now it doesn't matter if it's not Constitutional.)
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To: Kryptonite

When we see the warrant, you and I might agree about that. It doesn’t appear Warren was used as a reason, but then we haven’t seen the document.


418 posted on 04/19/2008 12:05:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It doesn't matter he isn't conservative. Now it doesn't matter if it's not Constitutional.)
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To: DoughtyOne

>>He posted that as an indicator of the age of marrige for young women in those time frames.<<

1) It specifically excludes anyone under the age of 15.

2) The data may be derived from “official” records which would only include civil marriages. Who knows.


419 posted on 04/19/2008 12:08:51 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne
"What point are you trying to make by posting this chart? Note that the statistics exclude anyone under the age of 15. " ============================================================

What do you mean what is the point?, you can't see what the average marriage age was for women and first birth delivery from that chart?

It included 15 year olds, there was no reason for them to go younger, that is part of the point, here is another source. ------------------------------------------------------------

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http://www.siu.edu/offices/iii/Publications/curr/high.html

420 posted on 04/19/2008 12:08:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS supporters, at least pretend to be repulsed by the child rape that has been proved.)
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