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In New Jersey Town, Prayer Overshadows Football
East Brunswick, New Jersey Coach Steps Down (Coach Supported Pregame Prayer)
Coach resigns after high school bans pregame prayer
East Brunswick Coach Borden Resigns (Pre-game Prayer)
School coach can kneel while players pray
Disagreements remain on what place prayer has in sport
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No Prayer in School? Millions of Students Will Pray at "See You At The Pole" Gatherings

1 posted on 04/15/2008 9:12:32 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

so much for freedom of religion. the government is telling individuals how to pray.


2 posted on 04/15/2008 9:13:56 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; DaveLoneRanger

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3 posted on 04/15/2008 9:16:33 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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To: Coleus

Keep praying , Coach.


5 posted on 04/15/2008 9:22:16 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Coleus

Those judges are absolutely insane. Run them out of office by any means necessary.


6 posted on 04/15/2008 9:22:27 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Coleus

This ruling is sickening. I am glad our founding fathers don’t have to see what we have come to.


7 posted on 04/15/2008 9:22:35 PM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: Coleus

So let me get this straight. A moronic “judge” has told an American that he is not allowed to pray in public? Welcome to Amerika! Where the First Amendment only applies to loudmouth, protesting DemocRATS, their toadies in the Liberal “media” and porn pimps. (Sorry for the redundancy at the end there).


8 posted on 04/15/2008 9:24:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help make the world "a better place!" De-Globalize yourself.)
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To: Coleus

Alliance for the Separation of School & State
http://www.schoolandstate.org/home.htm


11 posted on 04/15/2008 9:31:32 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Coleus
... which pits the right to free speech against the freedom from official establishment of a religion...uh, actually there's a second phrase to that part of the first amendment which lots of people including these judges seem to overlook - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free expression thereof..." - if one is stupid enough to actually believe that a coach praying with his team is tantamount to Congress making a law, one should be consistent in one's stupidity and believe that said law should not prohibit the coach from praying with his team......
12 posted on 04/15/2008 9:37:31 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Coleus

But TIZA in MN can teach Islam and hold prayers but no one will stand up to CAIR. Disgurting cowards.


15 posted on 04/16/2008 12:36:27 AM PDT by informavoracious (God BLESS America and BXVI)
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To: Coleus

Can’t bow his head? Just tell these commies he was checking to see if the players all had their shoes tied.

Kneeling? Still looking for that contact lens he lost last year.


16 posted on 04/16/2008 3:23:06 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Coleus

In ‘85 and ‘86, as a team, we said the I Prayer before every game!


17 posted on 04/16/2008 3:54:27 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: Coleus
Courts never address the underlying problem.

Government schools, the First Amendment and freedom of conscience can NOT coexist. This is issue that is **always** ignored in these court rulings.

There are 2 competing actions here, and the 2 can not be exercised simultaneously, and it puts the school in a Catch 22.

1) The coach will not pray.
This action impinges upon the coach's First Amendment Right to free speech and exercise of his religion. It also teaches the children that this coach ( a government representative) rejects God. Rejecting God in one's life is NOT a religiously neutral lesson. Rejection of God will have non-neutral political, cultural, and religious consequences for the student.

2) The school will allow the coach to pray.
This action imposes upon the non-religous students a school sanctioned religious activity. Surely if a citizen has a right to exercise his religion, he also has a right not to have religion imposed upon him by the government.

Solution: Begin the process or privatizing universal K-12 education. Let these matters be privately decided among parents, principals, teachers, and coaches.

Also.....As these First Amendment conflicts arise in other government institutions, it is best to get government out of as much as possible.

21 posted on 04/16/2008 5:45:21 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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