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Why your loved ones have left NY
Lockport Union Sun and Journal ^ | 14 April 2008 | Bob Confer

Posted on 04/14/2008 6:52:53 AM PDT by bobconfer

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To: bobconfer

Leftist policies make life uncomfortable for normal, productive people and comfortable for the beneficiaries of our good will. When the hard workers leave a state, the liberals will try to get the federal government to tax them and send the money to the liberal government so it can waste the money and demand more.


21 posted on 04/14/2008 7:39:54 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: bobconfer

Bob - Hello from a Buffalonian. WNY is like Eastern Europe. Everyone knows the problems, but those who can leave, while a larger portion of those who remain have in some way bought into the existing system. Therefore, change does not happen.

There is one way to force this change - seperation between New York City, and the remainder of Upstate. Make NY City a self-governing entity, perhaps similar to DC. Allow New York upstate to form its own state. It would change the politics and economics of Upstate NY in a radical way. Upstate NY could find the freedom from downstate politics, Gov’t unions, etc... and control its own resources such that it could become a “normal” state, like nearby Ohio.


22 posted on 04/14/2008 7:44:02 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: bobconfer; AppyPappy
Here is a map that displays county-to-county migration data for 2000-2005 from the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. It was originally created for an article about migration from the Buffalo, New York area to Charlotte, North Carolina. But it will do any county in the US.

Moving From County to County Interactive Map

23 posted on 04/14/2008 7:49:58 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: bobconfer
I'm a retired New Yorker. My property tax is OVER 10% of my my pension. That goes for cops and schools [mostly]. We have volunteer firemen. No town water. No garbage pick up [and I have to buy town bags to get my trash into a dump my taxes, in part, pay for].

My school taxes have gone up 19% in two years. They're anti-business, so no jobs for the young, who leave. They float environmental bonds every year, and we're at least 12 mill in the hole on those.

Our state taxes are a joke. Gas is about $3.50 per. When an upstate Republican proposed a plan to give some temporary relief, the NYC Dems shot it down. They don't drive, and they want the money. In NY they tax everything but the air. And they're working on that.

My Mom just died last week, and she was the only reason I've stayed. By next year, I'm either going south, or west, but I AM leaving. New York is a disaster.

24 posted on 04/14/2008 7:50:43 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PGR88
About like splitting CA into two states........

Probably needed....but probably NEVER happen.

25 posted on 04/14/2008 7:52:10 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: bobconfer

Hey Bob.... Guess who this is.... Click on my screen name.


26 posted on 04/14/2008 8:12:13 AM PDT by The Mayor ("A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps" (Prov. 16:9))
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To: george76

thanks, bfl


27 posted on 04/14/2008 8:45:12 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: AppyPappy
I started the trend. I left WNY in 1996. I worked in Lockport, the small city that printed this article. The joke back then, and I suspect still: Do you know how to run a small business in NY? Buy a big one and give it some time.

The lamenting about families being torn apart didn't hold for me. My mom, 2 sisters and a brother all have moved since me.

28 posted on 04/14/2008 8:48:30 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Cuchulain

That was a stupid promise. It’s not up to the federal government elected officials to provide local jobs; that’s up to the governor and mayors.


29 posted on 04/14/2008 8:52:37 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Michael Steele for VP)
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To: bobconfer

GTT


30 posted on 04/14/2008 9:04:08 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: bobconfer

On second thought, the move has separated our family. My wife’s entire family is still in WNY. I suppose I should have thought a bit more before posting the previous.


31 posted on 04/14/2008 9:14:26 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: bobconfer

In the last five years, I have noticed an influx of New Yorkers, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvanian folks moving into our area. They are intelligent and easy with which to work. Send em’ on...Mississippi welcomes them...


32 posted on 04/14/2008 10:52:04 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: bobconfer

btt


33 posted on 04/14/2008 3:23:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bobconfer
New York is waaayyyy too big to fail.

Grew up there, relatives, friends... Although, I had to leave in 2006 when my property taxes went from 6k in 2002 to 15k in RVC, Nassau County ....

Enjoying Phoenix sun & golf for now....

34 posted on 04/14/2008 7:56:33 PM PDT by babbabooey
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
since 2000 the Rochester area has lost over 7,300 of its residents
Kodak, Xerox, and some other companies have been making cuts since about that time -- and those were not just entry-level positions. Thanks george.
35 posted on 04/14/2008 11:30:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: AppyPappy

Taxes are a killer. I have an almost 200-year old farm house (not the most modern house) on 5 acres of land. My taxes last year: $5,497.


36 posted on 04/15/2008 4:56:08 AM PDT by bobconfer
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To: JohnD9207

“Wonder when the Rats and RINO’S are gonna figure this out.”

I will figure that out in the next couple of weeks: I plan to mail my column to all the state-level elected officials in the 3 counties where my column runs. I will post some of their responses here....if they respond at all.


37 posted on 04/15/2008 4:56:08 AM PDT by bobconfer
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To: Wacka

One stat I always like to throw around....1 out of every 7 people in WNY is employed by the government. That 7 people includes children and seniors who can’t work!


38 posted on 04/15/2008 4:56:09 AM PDT by bobconfer
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To: Damifino

“Do you know how to run a small business in NY? Buy a big one and give it some time.”

I love that line! I’m gonna have to use that now! Thanks!


39 posted on 04/15/2008 4:56:09 AM PDT by bobconfer
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To: bobconfer

I assume you are not paying city property taxes


40 posted on 04/15/2008 5:11:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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