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FLDS women seek Texas governor's help
Deseret News ^ | April 13, 2008 | Nancy Perkins

Posted on 04/13/2008 8:57:18 PM PDT by claudiustg

SAN ANGELO — A Texas judge on Sunday ordered law enforcement officials to immediately confiscate all cell phones in the possession of FLDS women and children now housed in temporary quarters here. "I just called to say, hi. They are about to collect the phones, I think," one soft-spoken FLDS woman said during a telephone call to another member of the Fundamentalist LDS Church who was outside of the shelter. "I don't like what they're doing."

Several of the women inside the shelters spoke by cell phone to the Deseret News on Saturday to describe the living conditions there. Children could be heard crying in the background of each conversation. The News published an article on Sunday, quoting the women who complained there was no privacy and that their children were getting sick.

FLDS faithful outside the shelter are convinced Sunday's court order is a direct result of the women speaking to the newspaper.

"This is nothing more than retaliation of Child Protective Services to punish those who were disclosing what is really happening behind the walls of this concentration camp," said Don, an FLDS member who asked that his last name not be used. "These are my family members."

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; mormon; polygamy
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Forgive me, but I suddenly had a vision of “What Not to Wear: The Worst Dressed Cult in America”.

Oh dear.


61 posted on 04/13/2008 9:55:14 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida
Again, this is a bizarre situation, but this is purely a rape and pedophile ring under the guise of a religion. That’s all it is....

Much like the Jews and Armenians...

62 posted on 04/13/2008 9:55:36 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it and I know it.)
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To: org.whodat

Actually witness tampering and conspiracy. And if any of the hubbies are out of state while placing the phone calls (you know visiting the UT wives since the TX are currently out of service) couldn’t the Feds have yet another openning to come in on?


63 posted on 04/13/2008 9:56:16 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: claudiustg

Don’t strain yourself too much, DU’s already had one crash and burn here tonight. Your turn......


64 posted on 04/13/2008 9:56:54 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: claudiustg

When the texas police start throwing FLDS members into ovens or forcing them to do labor, let me know. Before then, posters need to knock off the ridiculous nazi/concentration camp comparisons to what is going on here.
I have no problem with what the authorities have done here.
I think is embarrassment to this country that such organizations are allowed to practice this in the first place.

Polygamy is illegal in the united states. So is child molestation. So is tax invasion, welfare fruad, and many other criminal acts that these FLDS sects are caught perpetrating. I don’t care if they are using a religious excuse for it. It acutally disgusts me more that they are using religion as an excuse for what they practice.


65 posted on 04/13/2008 9:57:29 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: najida
Somewhere in Dearbornistan a woman is thinking...

'At least my basic black is slimming...'

66 posted on 04/13/2008 9:58:01 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Polygamy is illegal in the united states. So is child molestation. So is tax invasion, welfare fruad, and many other criminal acts that these FLDS sects are caught perpetrating. I don’t care if they are using a religious excuse for it. It acutally disgusts me more that they are using religion as an excuse for what they practice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thank you! Well said.

67 posted on 04/13/2008 9:59:22 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot............OUT ..)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Look, under that burka, she’s dressed like a supermodel. These poor women don’t even have that option.


68 posted on 04/13/2008 9:59:29 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Bravo!


69 posted on 04/13/2008 10:00:21 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Gondring; claudiustg

“ROTFLOL! You’re the one who said that the letter was from perverts. Since the mothers wrote the letter, you are saying they are perverts.”


It is a polygamy cult that practices child rape, both things are against the law and both things involve sex, of course the adult members are perverts.

The question is can we succeed in doing anything about it.

We got their leader and he was convicted for being an administrator of those practices, he was sentenced to a possible life sentence only months ago.

You know that, yet you seem to be rooting for no more convictions or harassment of the group and their practices.

We are tormented by the real likely hood that we will never be able to stop this cycle of sex enslavement and child rape, and assignment to old polygamists, and you guys root for the cult, and mock the legal efforts to bring them to justice.

I don’t get it.


70 posted on 04/13/2008 10:01:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (This cult stuff is grossing me out.)
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To: Gondring

Aint no need for a trial. We gots us a moral panic here.


71 posted on 04/13/2008 10:01:11 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (So you want to be President - it's like reality TV, only real)
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To: ansel12

Revenge for Waco means sacrificing this group.


72 posted on 04/13/2008 10:02:38 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I do understand all of the reasons the judge may have ordered their cell phones taken away. The problem is either we all have certain rights or we all lose our rights. Our whole justice system is centered around our rights. The same set of laws and guidelines has to protect the serial killer as well as the innocent- if not then the system breaks down. If the judge can actually order cell phones to be taken away from anyone that is not under arrest for any reason, then it will happen in other cases in the future. I just don’t like that idea. As much as I want to see this mess straightened out- and the guilty punished; I am not willing to give up any of my rights in order to make it easier to prosecute these people.


73 posted on 04/13/2008 10:04:11 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
When the texas police start throwing FLDS members into ovens or forcing them to do labor, let me know. Before then, posters need to knock off the ridiculous nazi/concentration camp comparisons to what is going on here.

Now, we need to shut up!

74 posted on 04/13/2008 10:05:08 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it and I know it.)
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To: claudiustg

Please do....


75 posted on 04/13/2008 10:06:11 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida

Too many FLDS members apparently signed up on FR to take anything for granted any more.

So these women are given a reprieve from their concentration camp like existence for a while and people are up in arms. These women are not being charged as criminals and they have not been put in jail.

It is simply beyond my comprehension that anyone would think that these women and children are better off there than free of it.

People can cry Constitutional rights and precedent all they want but I don’t see for a minute that this is what the First Amendment was meant to protect.

If I were in that situation, I would be GLAD for someone to come and rescue me, and I’d be furious at those who claim to be self-righteously more worried about their *freedom* than the crimes that were going on against me. What a callous, uncaring attitude.

“Oh, we can’t do something about them (who are in slavery) because some day it might, maybe, someday, possibly be used against (already free) me and I wouldn’t want to end up having the government tell me what to do.” (Never minding that these women have had their slave owners telling them what to do for their whole lives.)

The hypocrisy is mind boggling. It’s OK for one group (the cult) to control others but not OK for a different group (the government) to control others?

I guess I fail to see the logic because there is none.


76 posted on 04/13/2008 10:06:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tammy8

Bump what you said... reasoned and quite correct.


77 posted on 04/13/2008 10:06:50 PM PDT by antceecee (where do we go from here Ollie?.)
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To: najida
Whomever came up with that dress as appropriate wear in this day and age needs a jail sentence.

Well the dress is not so very different from what Mennonite or Amish women wear, although it looks to be made of a bit heavier fabric. But that's really a matter of culture and fashion. It's making them wear long underwear underneath, in the Texas summer, that should be punishable by being tied out in the sun over a fire ant mound.

78 posted on 04/13/2008 10:07:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: metmom

I think it’s a combination of wanting this to fail and maybe some think it’s nobody’s business. Or like one poster said “It’s every man’s dream”.


79 posted on 04/13/2008 10:08:42 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: El Gato

I was thinking overall heat and discomfort, plus being an ugly dress.


80 posted on 04/13/2008 10:10:27 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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