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LIVE: Olympic Relay Protests (1 PM)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 4/9/2007 | Me

Posted on 04/09/2008 11:14:20 AM PDT by Smogger

Get your popcorn boys and girls this is going to be good.

China has lined up 1000's of supporters, while protestors range from Tibetan monks and their supporters, Burmese Monks, other critics of China, and your usual rabble rousers.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; boycottchina; boycottolympics; burma; china; olympics; olympictorch; tibet
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To: Smogger

closing ceremony per nbc11 is not being held at justin herman, not sure if there may one somewhere else or that is it.


302 posted on 04/09/2008 3:17:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Security surrounds a procession with the Olympic torch as it travels down Van Ness Ave. in San Francisco, Wednesday, April 9, 2008. The torch was rerouted away from thousands of demonstrators and spectators who crowded the San Francisco waterfront to witness the flame's symbolic journey to the Beijing Games. The flame's only North American stop has drawn thousands of demonstrators gathered to praise and condemn China during the flame's journey to Beijing. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)


303 posted on 04/09/2008 3:19:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: sandyeggo

Speculation is the ceremony will be near the Golden Gate (having the Bridge in the background?)


304 posted on 04/09/2008 3:20:06 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: sandyeggo

At the Golden Gate Bridge?


305 posted on 04/09/2008 3:20:37 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: sandyeggo

I love it.

I can see a riot breaking out at location of the original ceremony.

What’s the point of having a ceremony at an undisclosed location?


306 posted on 04/09/2008 3:20:49 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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Confusion along San Francisco Olympic torch route
Adam Tanner
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080409/ts_nm/olympics_torch_usa_dc;_ylt=AsYC_T_HZaiDuyJlJD0i7d_NaMYA
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Confusion surrounded the relay of the troubled Olympic torch through San Francisco on Wednesday, as organizers completely changed the route at the last minute, bewildering thousands of China supporters and protesters converged along the planned route.

The first runner held the torch aloft and began the route, flanked by tall, blue-clad Chinese security officials.

But the group then promptly disappeared into a large waterfront warehouse for a last-minute change of route by authorities to head off trouble.

What Chinese Olympic organizers have called a “Journey of Harmony,” quickly became the mystery of the missing flame on the only relay leg of the torch in the United States on its journey to the Beijing Olympic Games in August.

The torch was a magnet for chaotic demonstrations in London and Paris in the last week over a range of China issues from China’s crackdown on Tibet last month to human rights. Beijing, embarrassed as it prepares to host the Olympics, has strongly condemned the protests.

After the torch disappeared from view in San Francisco, police boats and jet skis nearby hinted it might be headed up the waterfront by boat.

But then after a delay of an hour, it appeared on a major north-south street more than two miles away.

Spectators were bewildered.

“I think it’s cowardly. If they can’t run the torch through the city, it means that no one is supporting the games,” said Matt Helmenstine, 30, a California high school teacher who had a Tibetan flag.

Michael Huo, 30, a Chinese engineer working at a Silicon Valley company, added: “I think we were cheated, because I think the meaning of the rely was to show the whole world that our country is hosting the Olympics.”

San Francisco is a city with a large Chinese-American population and many had waited proudly to see the torch relay. But there tense confrontations with anti-China protesters.

At least one pro-Tibetan demonstrator was detained even before the starting event, which began later than the scheduled 1 p.m. (2000 GMT).

TENSIONS IN THE CITY

In front of the city’s ferry building, Christine Lias, 30, was quickly surrounded by more than 30 Chinese-Americans after she said “Free Tibet now!”

“Liar, liar, shame on you,” many in the group shouted.

On a beautiful spring day, San Francisco deployed hundreds of security officers, including agents from the FBI, backed by police cars with flashing lights, harbor boats, jet skis and helicopters.

Police warned anyone crossing barricades would be subject to arrest.

Thousands of pro-China spectators gathered along the original planned route, many flying the five-star Communist Chinese flag alongside U.S. and Olympic flags.

“In 5,000 years of Olympic history the Chinese can finally have one time hosting the Olympics. It means that China is becoming a world power,” said Don Zheng, 41, a Chinese-American computer engineer who emigrated in 1988.

Many Chinese-Americans are proud that their ancestral home is hosting the global sporting event and resent the protests.

“I’m loyal to the U.S. but I love China because it’s my motherland,” said Alice Liu, 50, who came to the United States after the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.

Scott Bennett, 54, a Buddhist from San Mateo, California, who was carrying a Tibetan flag, was quickly confronted by supporters of the torch relay.

The torch relays have also attracted other groups unhappy about a range of China-related issues, including its human rights record and policies on Sudan’s Darfur region. Critics say China should use more of its clout with Sudan to ease the bloody conflict in Darfur.

China blames Tibet’s spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, and his associates for orchestrating monk-led protests in Tibet last month as part of a campaign for independence. The Dalai Lama denies this.

BUSH CALL

Hours before the San Francisco torch relay, President George W. Bush urged China to open a dialogue with the Dalai Lama. He said he agreed at a meeting with Singapore Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong “that it would stand the Chinese government in good stead if they would begin a dialogue with the representatives of the Dalai Lama.”

Western leaders are facing a delicate balancing act as calls mount for them to boycott the Olympics opening ceremony.

Olympics chief Jacques Rogge told the Wall Street Journal that reports the International Olympic Committee executive board would consider scrapping the torch relay outside China, to avoid more ugly scenes, were “based on a misunderstanding.”

The torch protests have stirred up patriotic resentment among many ordinary Chinese who feel they politicize a sporting event that should be a celebration of 30 years of economic development and opening to the outside world.


307 posted on 04/09/2008 3:21:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Too many Pro-Tibet Anti-Communist China people at Justin Herman Plaza for the ceremony to take place there.

Probably be in a bath house, set up by Mayer Grewsom.

308 posted on 04/09/2008 3:21:31 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: LukeL
The irony of the situation is, there are almost no anti-communsit protesters out there. It is leftist against leftist. They are either for human rights or marxists.

Look at the cup half-full: being for human rights IS anti-communist.

Now I wish I was up there to build on the opportunity....

309 posted on 04/09/2008 3:21:55 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I wouldnt last 3 seconds living in a communist country, they would have to kill me.

My friend was five years old when the communists took over her country.

She lived the next thirty five years within their system. Some of the stories she tells are mindbogglingly.

It is amazing what a human being can endure when the lives of loved ones are threatened.

310 posted on 04/09/2008 3:22:09 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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S.F. closing torch ceremony canceled
JULIANA BARBASSA and MARCUS WOHLSEN, Associated Press

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080409/ap_on_re_us/olympic_torch;_ylt=AryKUlatRcfJAi9s8NJPMhFvzwcF

SAN FRANCISCO - Officials say the planned closing ceremony for the Olympic torch at the San Francisco Bay waterfront is canceled and another one will take place at an undisclosed location.

The ceremony had been slated to take place Wednesday at Justin Herman Plaza, where thousands had gathered to support and protest the Beijing-bound flame’s visit to the city.

Just before the relay began, the torch was rerouted about a mile away from the demonstrators and spectators. Officials say they changed the path because of security concerns.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom tells The Associated Press that a closing ceremony will still take place, but he would not specify where.


311 posted on 04/09/2008 3:22:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Smogger
Protesters dressed like the Statue of Liberty approaching.

I think they're just directing people to a pizza parlor.

313 posted on 04/09/2008 3:24:10 PM PDT by keat (What I wouldn't give for a nice pair of Moccasocks.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Will his mistress be there to witness it? Otherwise how will we really know they had a closing ceremony?


314 posted on 04/09/2008 3:25:46 PM PDT by rod1 (uestion)
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To: sandyeggo

they have stopped and appear to be “regrouping”.


315 posted on 04/09/2008 3:26:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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new runners a re-light and they’re off..


316 posted on 04/09/2008 3:27:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

““In 5,000 years of Olympic history the Chinese can finally have one time hosting the Olympics. It means that China is becoming a world power,” said Don Zheng, 41, a Chinese-American computer engineer who emigrated in 1988.”

I wonder how many guys like this are Chicom sleepers?


317 posted on 04/09/2008 3:28:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fourth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Runners are done. torch going to the airport?


318 posted on 04/09/2008 3:28:54 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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and now it sounds like the airport is the next destination, the runners are gonna all get swooped up and head there,, per Ktvu 2


319 posted on 04/09/2008 3:28:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: All

“I’m loyal to the U.S. but I love China because it’s my motherland,”

Sounds like a communist sympathizer to me. Round him. And round up the girl from that story too.


320 posted on 04/09/2008 3:29:05 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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