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To: fightinJAG
"Obviously, who/whatever created us is not bound by the same natural forces that bind us, because we haven’t been able to create at the same level."

I don't see anything obvious about this statement at all. Just because WE haven't been able to create at the same level, doesn't mean it's not possible within the boundaries of the natural laws of the universe. Think about all the things that we weren't able to do 2000 years ago, compared to what we can do in the present day. Now, think about what a race of super intelligent aliens could do with, say, 500,000 years of advanced technology to work with?
143 posted on 04/08/2008 7:39:36 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: joseph20

In your hypothetical, regardless of the reason, isn’t it true that at this point in time, at certainly at the point of creation, the creator(s) had more power (broadly construed) than the creation?

Isn’t that what a “god” is-—for example, the idea of the Greek gods were very human-like but with more power than humans?

Wouldn’t your proposed aliens be “gods” in that vein?

By whatever means, were they not superior in power to what they created at the time they created it? The argument that I think you’re making-—that the creation may some day be manifested as equal or superior to its creator-—is beside the point.

You said you would stipulate to a definition of “god(s)”—ie., not talking about the God of the Bible—and I said an alien race that, by dint of inherent power or advanced civilization or advanced technology, could create humans and the Earth would functionally be “gods” over those humans and the Earth.

The master remains the master unless and until the student overtakes him.

We, the human race, have yet to overtake our creator, and your argument that we may become as powerful as our creator in the future-—or even that we are as powerful now, but will learn to manifest that power only in the future-—doesn’t change that reality now.

Right now, viz-a-vis the creator, we are still the creation.


155 posted on 04/08/2008 2:37:49 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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