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To: colorcountry
Then how do they rationalize this?

Exodus 20:1-3 1 And God spoke all these words:

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 "You shall have no other gods before me.

Jesus said that He is the Way, the Truth, the Life, that no man comes to the Father but through Him.

Now if Jesus isn't God Himself, then putting Jesus into the equation, the necessity of coming to God the Father through Him for salvation, is putting another god before the God that gave us the Ten Commandments, is it not?

So how can they say that salvation is through Jesus when God the Father commanded that no other gods be put before HIM?

However, if Jesus is God the Father, come in the flesh, as He so clearly states, then there is no problem. Jesus is God Himself and going through Jesus is not putting another god before the Father because they are one in the same.

3,340 posted on 04/16/2008 9:03:07 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
So how can they say that salvation is through Jesus when God the Father commanded that no other gods be put before HIM?

It gets worse than that. Mormons have also taught salvation comes through Joseph Smith, Smith has been elevated to god.

"Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)

. . . no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. . . . Every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are . . . I cannot go there without his consent. . . . He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).

I will now give my scripture—"Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God . . . that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Anti-christ . . . (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 176 ).

3,343 posted on 04/16/2008 9:12:38 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: metmom

As an example, think of the Mormon “Godhead” as a Board of a corporation.

You have the President, the Vice President and the Secretary.

They all have an equal vote, and are equal in power, yet serve different functions within the group. Jesus (Vice President) is the intercessory between those who wish to address the Board (us) and the Board. The President is a figurehead (God the Father)who’s experience is invaluable. The secretary (Holy Ghost) is the one who records and delivers all the “messages.”

God is in actuality the three members of the Board of the Earth. God the Father is also a member of a “Board of Gods” or “Council of Gods” with the name Elohim (plural). The members of Elohim are Gods of other worlds.

It’s a convoluted mess that to them makes more sense than believing in the trinity.


3,345 posted on 04/16/2008 9:24:13 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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