Where has YHWH stated this pray? LXX is nearly identical to the MT after 1600 years. Furthermore, it was the LXX that helped the early church move so quickly into the Greek world and it is cited in the NT far more than Enoch.
Barnabas wrote his epistle after the temple was destroyed, in 70 AD, but you have no proof for a late date for the Epistle of Barnabas.
What proof do you have that I'm wrong? OK, have to do your homework for you again
It is necessary, therefore, to fall back on verses 3-5 of chapter xvi. Reference is here made to the command given by Adrian in A.D. 130 for the reconstruction, in honour of Jupiter, of the Temple at Jerusalem, which had been destroyed by Titus. Adrian had also forbidden the Jews to practise circumcision. The writer of the letter makes allusion to this (ch. ix, 4). The epistle must, consequently, have been written in A.D. 130-131.(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02299a.htm)
Introductory Note to the Epistle of Barnabas
[When it is remembered that no one ascribes the Epistle to the apostolic Barnabas till the times of Clement of Alexandria, and that it is ranked by Eusebius among the "spurious" writings, which, however much known and read in the Church, were never regarded as authoritative, little doubt can remain that the external evidence is of itself weak, and should not make us hesitate for a moment in refusing to ascribe this writing to Barnabas the Apostle.(http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.vi.i.html)
Bottom line - not Barnabas of Paul's partner fame. No apostolic link, not inspired, not scripture. FWIW it can mention enoch all it wants but it is worthless as a proof text for Enoch to be in the canon.
but as Jesus was so versed in Enoch 1
Again, give me the direct citations of 1 Enoch by Jesus - waiting (crickets)
The Didache and Barnabas are also closely connected,
The Didache is mentioned by Eusebius after the books of Scripture (H. E., III, xxv, 4): "Let there be placed among the spuria the writing of the Acts of Paul, the so-called Shepherd and the Apocalypse of Peter, and besides these the Epistle known as that of Barnabas,....
Hint - by spurious Eusebius indicates that they are not factual or fraulent - not inspired, not scripture.
The dream visions are the only things missing so far from the Qumram caves, of that book, and there is yet so much to be discovered in those books that they may find them yet.
It has been what, since 1947, and the enoch materials were all found in cave 4. Nor does this answer why the book of giants was left out of the Ethiopian collection. They would have been found by now in cave 4, they are not there.
Tertullien calls them Scripture,
He is the only one to. Others have referenced Enoch, but never lending it to the level of scripture. Origen denied its authenticity after studying it further.
This is found in Enoch, sir, and not in Isaiah -though Isaiah refers to the statement made by YHWH in Enoch....
, I see you chose sections from the Similitudes. These were not written before the end of the first century ad, they could not have been the source of Isaiah's quote (Isa 45:23) Finally, there is no direct citation of Similitudes here, there are vague inferences that could be attributed to multiple other extra biblical books.
Now I found this little tidbit in Chapt 48
2 And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits And his name before the Head of Days.
3 Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.
Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end (John 1:1). Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. As I said, there are good reasons Enoch was left out. Here's more
Chapter 69:8-12
8 ...And the fourth was named Penemue: he taught the
9 children of men the bitter and the sweet, and he taught them all the secrets of their wisdom. And he instructed mankind in writing with ink and paper, and thereby many sinned from eternity to
10 eternity and until this day. For men were not created for such a purpose, to give confirmation
11 to their good faith with pen and ink. For men were created exactly like the angels, to the intent that they should continue pure and righteous, and death, which destroys everything, could not have taken hold of them, but through this their knowledge they are perishing, and through this power
12 it is consuming me.
What ... man's wisdom came from a demon named Penemue? That's crazy! Did ink and paper cause the fall of the human race? Whoa ... I'd better through all my fine-point pens away immediately! It was Adam's sin that brought sin into the world (Romans 5:12); not evil literature. Mankind is inherently evil of himself, prone to the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). This isn't scripture, this is bogus, ink and paper weren't even around until very recent and definitely not during the time of Enoch.
And in Chapter 40
9 seen and whose words I have heard and written down?’ And he said to me: ‘This first is Michael, the merciful and long-suffering: and the second, who is set over all the diseases and all the wounds of the children of men, is Raphael: and the third, who is set over all the powers, is Gabriel: and the fourth, who is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life, is named Phanuel.’
10 And these are the four angels of the Lord of Spirits and the four voices I heard in those days.
The Bible never mentions an angel named Phanuel, let alone an angel who is set over the repentance of those who inherit eternal life. What blasphemy! That statement in itself contradicts everything the Word of God teaches. We read in 1st Timothy 2:5 that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Mediator between God and men, not some angel named Phanuel... "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Repentance is strictly between a man and Jesus Christ alone.
Here are three examples of counter-doctrinal material in Enoch that deny the foundations of Christ's teaching. There is no way these can be reconciled to the Gospel.
Is your fixation for Enoch based upon Elizabeth Clare Prophet's book Fallen Angels and the Origins of Evil?
I am a born again in Christ, water baptized Believer, who has been saved for over 38 years, and who loves the Word of God and My Savior, the Word in flesh, and since my children are grown and gone I have time to study the Word deeper than ever I could when I was a busy mom of seven, with a hubby also.
Hubby and I are able to do the things one cannot do so easily in the busier years, and I have never been involved with any such things as you asked about, and only promote Jesus Christ as the only name and way to be saved and inherit eternal life and escape the wrath of God, which is eternal.
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>>Where has YHWH stated this pray? LXX is nearly identical to the MT after 1600 years. Furthermore, it was the LXX that helped the early church move so quickly into the Greek world and it is cited in the NT far more than Enoch.<,
He stated it in the curses given to Israel because of their wilfull rebellions against Him, in the OT -really, you need to get an understanding of the relationship of YHWH to His namesake people, and why He meant what He said, and what their status is, as they stumble in darkness, without understanding, since the Glory departed their temple as recorded in Ezekiel 1-10. When their Light came, in flesh of second creation, they rejected Him, as a nation, and their “house was left to them desolate”, and will continue to be so until they say: “Blessed is He who comes in the name of YHWH”. Hosea tells, in a parable, of His love for them and what He is doing for them at this time, and how He is caring for them though they do not know Him -yet.
>>LXX is nearly identical to the MT after 1600 years. Furthermore, it was the LXX that helped the early church move so quickly into the Greek world and it is cited in the NT far more than Enoch.<<
So?
LXX includes many books which are not cited one time in the NT.
Enoch is.
Enoch is not a “Jewish” book, but a book which the Egyptians had, also, as other tribes of the world did, as sons of Enoch through Noah, also -so why should it be specifically part of the LXX anyway? It’s bigger than Israel. It’s for the world.
The Book of Jasher is cited in the NT and in the OT, yet it is not in the LXX and it was not just a history of the Jews, but of all the tribes from Adam to Joshua.
Your Enoch is not the Ethiopian Enoch, and is not found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
You are giving false information here.
On the name of of the Son of Man, Israel, it was not revealed from the beginning. That a New Name is given in which we in Adam can be adopted, because of His ransom of us as Kinsman is the theme of enoch’s seeing Him in heaven, as the hidden in God from the beginning Son of Man, who was to come, and who is now come.
When He appeared to Samson’s parents, pre-incarnate, and they asked His name, It was still secret. When He appeared to Jacob, in Genesis 32, He at that moment revealed it to Jacob, and Jacob got the name of the New Man who was to come, from the beginning, as a sign of the adoption to come.
Jacob understood that He ahd seen God, and He made a memorial altar to His name, in Genesis 33; El-ElOHE-ISRAEL =God Mighty God, Israel.
Whoever is born into His Living Spirit has the Revelation of His name, and they are saved in His name of the second Man. We call Him Jesus which in the Hebrew is “Salvation”, but the Father called His name “Israel”, as the second creation Man, and He gives to all His own adopted sons His own New Man name.