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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: Enosh

Their fornication corrupted the world. Your language corrputs your posts.

Enoch
[Chapter 86]

1 And again I saw with mine eyes as I slept, and I saw the heaven above, and behold a star fell 2 from heaven, and it arose and eat and pastured amongst those oxen. And after that I saw the large and the black oxen, and behold they all changed their stalls and pastures and their cattle, and began 3 to live with each other.

And again I saw in the vision, and looked towards the heaven, and behold I saw many stars descend and cast themselves down from heaven to that first star, and they became 4 bulls amongst those cattle and pastured with them [amongst them]. And I looked at them and saw, and behold they all let out their privy members, like horses, and began to cover the cows of the oxen, 5 and they all became pregnant and bare elephants, camels, and asses.

And all the oxen feared them and were affrighted at them, and began to bite with their teeth and to devour, and to gore with their 6 horns.

And they began, moreover, to devour those oxen; and behold all the children of the earth began to tremble and quake before them and to flee from them.

[Chapter 87]

1 And again I saw how they began to gore each other and to devour each other, and the earth 2 began to cry aloud. And I raised mine eyes again to heaven, and I saw in the vision, and behold there came forth from heaven beings who were like white men: and four went forth from that place
3 and three with them. And those three that had last come forth grasped me by my hand and took me up, away from the generations of the earth, and raised me up to a lofty place, and showed me 4 a tower raised high above the earth, and all the hills were lower.
And one said unto me: ‘ Remain here till thou seest everything that befalls those elephants, camels, and asses, and the stars and the oxen, and all of them.’

[Chapter 88]

1 And I saw one of those four who had come forth first, and he seized that first star which had fallen from the heaven, and bound it hand and foot and cast it into an abyss: now that abyss was 2 narrow and deep, and horrible and dark. And one of them drew a sword, and gave it to those elephants and camels and asses: then they began to smite each other, and the whole earth quaked

3 because of them. And as I was beholding in the vision, lo, one of those four who had come forth stoned (them) from heaven, and gathered and took all the great stars whose privy members were like those of horses, and bound them all hand and foot, and cast them in an abyss of the earth. “


3,441 posted on 04/16/2008 7:09:21 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Enosh

-”corrupts”


3,442 posted on 04/16/2008 7:11:00 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
"... two persons in Adam..."

"Adam" as in "man" as in "mankind" - two humans. (And two souls.)

This is getting weird...

3,443 posted on 04/16/2008 7:11:13 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
"Your language corrputs your posts."

Sorry to offend.

How does "amorous angels" strike you?

3,444 posted on 04/16/2008 7:13:42 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: restornu

He never stopped being God, YHWH the Word, the LIVING SPIRIT, Water of LIFE.
He just dressed Himself in New Creation Human being flesh to be Kinsman Redeemer to Adam, and to ransom the kingdom given to Adam and ben Adam,from death and corruption, by His blood.

In Isaiah 59 YHWH Himself, int he PErson of the Word, saw no ‘isyh to being for the justice for earth and so He dressed =put on= the garments of human flesh as New Man brother to Adam to ransom the earth and bring forth the justice and atone for all Adam persons so that whosoever will may become sons of God in his New Man name -His name is not Adam, but Israel.
“In Adam all die, in Christ” [the Living Spirit come in flesh] “all are made alive” [whosoever will choose to be made alive in His free offer of Salvation in this Day of Salvation].


3,445 posted on 04/16/2008 7:17:26 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Enosh

“fornicators” does the job.


3,446 posted on 04/16/2008 7:18:23 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
Very well, "fornicators."

You believe the BoE in that angels came down to boink the babes... err... "fornicate." You seem to be somewhat isolated in that conclusion.

Mormons believe that God came down to boink the babe... err... "fornicate" with Mary. They are alone in that conclusion; even Islam teaches Immaculate Conception.

3,447 posted on 04/16/2008 7:32:18 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Colofornian
Actually, CG, Resty can't even provide any Mormon alleged "Scripture" specifically stating that the FATHER was once an exalted man..

Thanks for that insight. Kind of destroys the whole idea of the 'fullness' of the gospel don't it? Looks like a convoluted mess to me.

3,448 posted on 04/16/2008 7:40:18 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Enosh

Apple multiplied itself, as Apple was commanded. Lots of apples were produced by the seed created within apple, from the beginning, but every multiplied seed come into it’s “kind/being” is called “apple”; and every apple that grows a tree or trees from it’s seed produces an “apple tree”.

Deer multiplied itself, as deer was commanded. Lots of deer were produced by the seed created within deer, from the beginning, but every deer seed come into it’s being by the multiplication of the kind, is called “deer’.

Adam multiplied himself, as Adam was commanded. Lots of Adam persons were produced by the seed created within the Adam, from the beginning, but each seed which comes to “life”/germination, and born of the Adam is called ‘Adam”, in the Word. In English the word is translated “man”, but it is Adam, in Hebrew.

In Genesis 5:2, there are two persons called Adam, by the Creator, because they are one spirit [Malachi 2:15], one blood [Acts 17:26]one flesh, one bone [Genesis 2:23].
Souls are individual persons, and in the Word the spirit and soul are sometimes used interchangeably, but the soul is the person, the spirit is the kind, multiplied in the person, and which is the force, or drive, which causes the person to “be” the creature, kind, it is.

In Genesis 6, the Hebrew states that Adam multiplied: Adam is still multiplying, and will continue to multiply until the spirit of Adam is cut off, which is to be in the 8th day of creation; and which circumcision on the 8th day, for the seed of Abraham, signifies: for in the 8th day [thousand year days] of creation, after earth’s present creation is regeneraated, there will be no spirit of Adam living on earth.
All in Adam who were not born into the Living Spirit of the second Man will be cast into the Abyss, then, soul and body, but minus the “Adam” spirit [that’s in the word].

Persons in Adam were “traded” =slave trade, in Ezekiel Eze 27:13 “they traded the persons of men/ ‘adam”
http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Eze&chapter=27&verse=13&version=KJV#13


3,449 posted on 04/16/2008 7:44:43 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: restornu
I did not miss any point Heavenly Father always was exalted no one ever said he wasn't...

My my this just keeps getting more and more interesting. First you mock the Scriptures, then you attack me personally, now apparently you are rejecting your own articles of faith!

LDS Apostle James Talmage wrote, "We believe in a God who is Himself progressive, whose majesty is intelligence; whose perfection consists in eternal advancement - a Being who has attained His exalted state by a path which now His children are permitted to follow, whose glory it is their heritage to share. In spite of the opposition of the sects, in the face of direct charges of blasphemy, the church proclaims the eternal truth: 'As man is, God once was; as God is, man may be'" (Articles of Faith, p. 430).

One of YOUR Apostles proclaimed that Resty, so uh, yeah, SOMEONE said God the Father earned His position and it became one of YOUR articles of faith! So....it seems to me that you are either deliberately lying here or you have no clue what you believe. Which is it???? Lying or confused???

If lying: God doesn't lie and God never commands lying, such behavior is not of God and when indulged in is always proof whatever is being hidden isn't from God. Or, if confused....well, God is not the author of confusion either. So either position you find yourself in its just more evidence that the LDS isn't speaking for God but is what I've been saying all along: A Doctrine of Demons.

Keep it up Resty you're doing a fabulous job of exposing the LDS for the cult that it is.

3,450 posted on 04/16/2008 7:54:28 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
"Adam" means "man," "ishsha" "woman." Two different things.

"Son of man" later can be read as "son of mankind," which is to say, "human."

3,451 posted on 04/16/2008 7:56:17 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh
which is to say, "human."

BTW, that's what "Enosh" means.

3,452 posted on 04/16/2008 7:59:58 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

The body was prepared in the womb of Mary for YHWH, in the Person of the Word, to dress Himself in, minus the Glory He had with the Father =as God the Word- from the beginning. The second human being was formed in the womb, but is not an Adam person. He is the Israel of God, as the New creation Man. The first man was formed in the earth, of the earth, and God breathed into him and he became a living soul. The second Man is the LORD from heaven who dressed His Person in the second creation human being flesh body.

“Hbr 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:” -taken from the OT Greek Septuagint version, by the author of Hebrews

He put on that body as a garment [Isaiah 59; Revelation 19 -He’s coming back in the same garment of human flesh], and we get to put on the garments of Salvation/Yeshua as garments for our cleansed souls to wear.
By regeneration of Spirit we are One Spirit with Him, and when the body is resurrected it will be morphosed in it’s elements [as a worm morphoses in the chrysalis, we shall be changed] to the image of the second/New creation Human being.

1Cr 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Disciple/pupil is from the same root as pupa, and gold is from the same root as chrysalis. All born again in Spirit Believers live in the Adam, but are hid in God with Christ, as a pupa in it’s chrysallis, so to speak, and when we are regenerated in body, we come forth as new creatures in Christ, made for the Glory.


3,453 posted on 04/16/2008 8:03:50 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: conservativegramma

It is not good to have a little knowlege and than pontificate on it.

I know that God is greater beyond anything and everything so what if the Creator still is eternally learning else why would one of his titles be called Creator!


3,454 posted on 04/16/2008 8:18:42 PM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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To: Enosh

Adam was the created head for earth, the “’Isyh” and from Adam, the “’isyh”, YHWH took a rib and formed the woman/ “’ishyah “.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=22&version=KJV#22

http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=23&version=KJV#23

Genesis 2:23 she/zo’th called/qara’ woman/’ishshah she/zo’th taken/laqach man/’iysh


3,455 posted on 04/16/2008 8:20:18 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Enosh

“ben Adam” is the seed of the head/first/chief of our kind.


3,456 posted on 04/16/2008 8:22:26 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Enosh; restornu

Just got back and read that........Holy Smokes!!

I think it was a slip-up. whoooops!


3,457 posted on 04/16/2008 10:38:52 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: restornu

The Creator is still learning????

Is this a Mormon belief or a resty belief?


3,458 posted on 04/16/2008 10:44:09 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Godzilla
I Said: You and Godzilla, ROTFLOL! Godzilla is a paid clergy who I suspect has been assigned here (It's happened before), I also recognize his style from way back. for him I have a little respect for he does indeed know much, it's just sad that he has not shown the faith to actually read the Book of Mormon and pray about it in faith, he'd make a fine asset to our side of this debate. Well, all things in the lord's due time.

U Said: Yawn, more squeeky noises on the new threadware, (scratching stomach, arising from sermon preparation). First regarding honesty Du - I have made it clear that I have read the bom and given it prayer. The FACT that I told this to you now places your comment in the category of a LIE. To quote your standard

Did you do so In faith? I have known people who read the Book of Mormon merely to be able to say they have they said a sarcastic prayer with no intent to actually learn from God, unsurprisingly, they received no answer and thus they crowed about how they didn't get one and they even crowed about how sarcastically they prayed...

As to you having told me before, I must confess that if you did, I forgot.

About the time you came on the scene, I fell on the ice and tore my patella tendon off of my quadriceps, and I was on some pretty hefty drugs (it will still be several months before I can walk normally) so if it was around then the you told me, I would point to that and say sorry, either way, I didn't remember you saying that, so I was mistaken, not lying (Lying by definition requires intent to deceive).

I Said: As to liar, Please prove my intent to deceive anywhere...

U Said: You are being deceptive about what I've factually done and have relayed to you. That you have used deceptive practices previously, all I have to do is think back to those poor souls chained to their desks writing for NewAvent. Nuf said, you've lied about me - you are a liar.

You seem to think I'm being deceptive when I testify of my own experiences, or invite others to pray.

Um, you have not proven any lying on my part, was I wrong about something, yep, cheerfully admitted now that you point it out. Have you never forgotten something, or been wrong about something?

I believe you are referring to the Discussion about the person writing the Article for newadvent.org (you called it NewAvent, and I am not calling you a liar for getting something wrong) I never said they were chained there that is an exaggeration, I said they were paid to do research and could not publish the results anywhere else. (a financial chain to be sure, but I will not call you a liar for a mere exaggeration)

I Said: Can you, or can you not show where Polygamy is condemned in the Bible,

I Said: Can you show me where in the bible polygamy is a commandment for for celestial progression - you can expand that search to include the bom too (you know, that chloroformic writing you said I've never read).

No, I cannot prove that the practice of polygamy is required for salvation neither do I believe it to be a requirement. I do believe that knowing and understanding truth are requirements and I do believe the Practice of polygamy is apparent and approved in the Bible. I do not expect you to agree with that though.

I will point out that you have not proved that I ever intended to deceive anyone, therefore, I am not a liar, I was merely mistakenly thinking that you had not read the Book of Mormon, though your "clorofomic" description tells me a bit about your attitude while reading it.

IMHO, you throw the word liar around a bit too easily.
3,459 posted on 04/16/2008 11:41:54 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: bonfire

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3,460 posted on 04/16/2008 11:53:21 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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