BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)

Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

[Enosh]

"Do LDS dislike Baptists?"

All Christian denominations deny the LDS as fellow Christian brothers, but Baptists first went further to label them a cult.

As such, the use of the Baptist buses is a poke in the eye to Mormonism.

Good.

[ansel12]

“I live on planet Earth, where (unfortunately) nearly every different denomination believes all the others are WRONG, and believes other denominations are leading people to Hell.”

“Maybe you are just a troll or maybe your church ,if there is one, consists of a bunch of raving heretics spewing hate for other Christians.”

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The major Christian churches disagree on a lot, but they all agree on the question of “Is Mormonism Christian” Catholics, Baptists, Assemblies of God, Greek Orthodox, Methodists, etc, etc, are unified in their knowledge that Mormonism is not Christian.

[Spktyr]

I still maintain that if they’d done what all the locals recommended, the Branch Davidian siege would have been a non-issue.

What should have happened is that the sheriff, a Ranger, and an FBI agent with a few others should have gone to the property and served the search warrant. I believe that Koresh had stated something along the lines of “if they’d come peacefully, I would have let them in.” Not so?

[CindyDawg]

You aren’t from around here, are you? You want conservative Texas Baptists on your jury.

[repinwi]

Because the law does not recognize plural marriages, only the marriage to the first wife is considered valid. The succeeding marriages are deemed invalid by law. Once those wives of the invalid marriages begin producing children, they begin applying for welfare benefits and food stamps. In the eyes of the law, these women are considered to be single mothers.

One of the mandates of Warren Jeffs, the so-called and self-proclaimed prophet, is that the men must pay to the "church" upwards of over $1000 per month. Jeffs can, and regularly does, demand that this amount be increased, depending upon what the needs of the "church" are at the time. This money comes from the welfare benefits that the plural wives are receiving.

Men in the FLDS who own businesses are required to turn over the majority of their profits to the "church." The homes that these followers live in are all owned by the "church" via a Trust that was set up by one of Warren Jeffs' predecessors.

In the Utah/Arizona community of Hildale, Utah and Colorado City, Arizona, the state prevailed in a lawsuit and is now allowing disenfranchised (or ousted) members of FLDS to buy back the homes that they built with their own money and that were previously owned by the FLDS Trust.

[bannie]

Aberrant Christian: groups that claim to be Bible-based but which deviate in practice or belief

Deviate from WHAT or from WHOM? From another church's determinations of meanings from The Bible?

Which church?

Yours, I assume?

[SkyPilot]

Those who believe in evolution would be well advised to kill all of the chimps and monkeys and gorillas before they are granted legal rights. Once they have the right to counsel and welfare payments, it will be the end. If, of course, you believe in evolution.

??????????

Whoa. Where did that come from?

What's next here - debating Campaign Finance Reform?

[McCoMo]

MY situation? Man, if you actually think all denominations are just tickled to death with denominations who preach different dogmas and doctrines, then you have a VERY active fantasy life. Different denominations are in COMPETITION with each other. Always have been, and always will be. Texas is no different than any other place in the world in that regard.

Personally, I am not opposed to any particular religious beliefs since I am not omnipotent, and since I am unsure WHO is right. BUT, I am not foolish or ignorant enough to believe that all the different denominations are living some harmonious utopian ideal that you seem to believe.

[Spktyr]

That aside, the LDS say that these people are not theirs. So I seriously doubt the LDS are going to care much about this. I suspect there will even be much glee in that quarter. Something about the “heretics” getting their due, I imagine.

[Republic of Texas]

Here's how it works in small towns. If you are a Sheriff and need five buses one hour from now, who do you call? The school administrator? On a Saturday? Who exactly is that? You don't know that person. The person you do know is Joe Smith who is a such and such at the local First Baptist Church. HIS phone number is on your cell phone because you do business with him, play golf with him or God forbid, go to church with him. So, you need them in ONE HOUR. Who do you call?

[DaveMSmith]

B. Second, cult teachers will proclaim a “gospel message” that is ultimately is a message of works-centered salvation,

LOL! Who wrote this, anyhow?

[bill1952]

I would also point out that polygamy was practiced and condoned in the Old Testament – King David and King Solomon both had many wives and “concubines”.

While I agree with much of the rest of your post, that statement is ridiculous. - We need to stay within, say, 2,000 years when using examples...

[McCoMo]

You have no schools in your state?

Oh I aksed that already, and your response answers that question pretty clearly.

[SkyPilot]

One can only wonder what would be happening right now if Hillary had answered the phone...at 3 a.m.

So tell me....
are any of the 16 year old girls cute?

[Spktyr]

Here’s an old article from the Salt Lake City, UT Tribune. It dates from 2005 and is quite interesting.

http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_8809606

[ansel12]

“As far as I am aware, Catholics are not really fond of Baptists”

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Don’t blow the differences up too big though, Catholics recognize Baptist baptism as fellow Christians, Catholics officially will not accept Latter Day Saints baptism as Christian.

[SkyPilot]

Short memory? Reno was also claiming child abuse to attacke the Branch Davidians.

Yes - she did. She also claimed they were cooking Meth in the bathtubs.

Child advocacy counselors went out to Mount Carmel and interviewed the children. No charges of sexual abuse were found.

Reno parroted those charges again in front of the press in order to justify her actions.

[repinwi]

http://myeldorado.net/

Site just upgraded. One officer said they found everything the needed and more.

[Republic of Texas]

As spktyr already said. Not holding hands in a big singalong, just live and let live. We don’t care what you are, as long as you are a decent person. That is why this compound has been there for several years with no problems from LE.

[CindyDawg]

That's interesting. Thanks. The welfare part though.. I don't think Texans get checks anymore. Long star cards, housing and medical yes but I believe the checks were stopped. I could be wrong though. Anyone know?

I do know that Dads are gone after aggressively and unless they put father unknown the fathers would also be having to pay child support.