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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: Godzilla
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy.

Seems simple to me: "If you want to be a GOD; then you have to defend POLYGAMY."

Case closed.

2,261 posted on 04/10/2008 4:25:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Gee, Elsie, I think that we’re missing something here. If righteous Abraham could lie and still had God’s approval and blessing, then we can, too.

Whew, That’s one less commandment we have to worry about keeping.

Now we’re down to 8. Adultery’s off the list and so is lying.

Any more we can eliminate?


2,262 posted on 04/10/2008 4:26:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu
As a matter of fact, I do NOT have any kind of love for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
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That is your choice greyfoxx39 I shall make note of your demeamor towards the LDS!

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You DO that!

2,263 posted on 04/10/2008 4:27:58 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
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To: DelphiUser

We’re talking the US here. That’s where all this is taking place.

Where in the US?

Perhaps if Jeffs had wanted to live in a desert climate and have hordes of females to sexually abuse, he should have moved to Saudi Arabia. No doubt he would have felt right at home there.


2,264 posted on 04/10/2008 4:33:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie

In at least one case, God commanded that genocide be commited. Which leads one to wonder if that makes genocide moral and justified for all time, or if it is a specific instance which does not necessarily apply to all time.

Personally, I think instances where God commanded specific people, or groups, to commit a specific act a single time does not necessarily mean that he intends for all people to commit that act anytime under any circumstances.

Considering this, even IF God had commanded a particular individual to cleave unto a woman besides his wife (which is VERY debatable), that is on a case by case basis, and does not necessarily mean ALL men should do it at all times. Context and circumstances must be taken into account. Another example would be when God’s messenger told Joseph to be accepting of Mary’s pregnancy, I do not think he meant for ALL men to overlook it when their soon-to-be bride comes up pregnant and the prospective groom knows he is not the father.


2,265 posted on 04/10/2008 4:34:51 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: Godzilla

The simple fact that the male/female ratio is for all practical purposes one to one. is enough argument against polygamy. If few men have many wives, then many men hove no wives.

At the very least, it corrupts the gene pool as we see happening.

So then, why doesn’t someone set up a religion where one woman can have many husbands? That would balance the whole thing out.


2,266 posted on 04/10/2008 4:36:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie

Doesn’t it amount to, if you don’t achieve godhood, you burn in hell? Those are the alternatives?


2,267 posted on 04/10/2008 4:38:06 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All
If this were not so sad a revelation of the blindness in the poster's soul, it would be laughable! ... "The book of Mormon speaks out against polygamy when it was used as a way to punish wives and was being practiced very wickedly. God commanded Joseph to institute it ..." The lengths some mormonism apologists (not fLDS, LDS Apologists) will go to defend their peepstone lying adulterous false prophet's instituted polyPIGgamy is astonishing.
2,268 posted on 04/10/2008 4:38:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: McCoMo; Elsie

God permitted slavery, too.

Don’t even want to go there....


2,269 posted on 04/10/2008 4:39:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Exactly. Good point.


2,270 posted on 04/10/2008 4:39:43 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: metmom

As a matter of fact, the notion that God permitted it one time means we are then free to do it anytime reminds me of when my son was young. I had taken him out and taught him to fire a rifle at some targets. He was under direct supervision when we did it. This did not mean, which he discovered later, that it meant to could get the rifle anytime he wanted, without my supervision, and go out shooting.

Thinking that just because something was allowed one time under special circumstances means you thine have carte-blanc to do it anytime is a childish notion.


2,271 posted on 04/10/2008 4:44:04 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: Elsie; SkyPilot; colorcountry; Utah Binger; P-Marlowe
You're in for it now grey.

I'm thinking of changing my screen name to "Sunny Perdition"!

(For those without a mormon background, google "son of perdition".)

2,272 posted on 04/10/2008 4:44:47 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
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To: McCoMo

You’re in for a treat with Delphi User’s posts, now that he is cornered and getting excited. He loves to throw in ‘grin’ and ‘chuckling’ amd ‘snicker’ as little childish insults symbolic of his Mormonism condescension. He has alter egos who will then jump in to tell us how unChristian it is to question his motives and expose his fallacies without petting his ego which is apparently so frail.


2,273 posted on 04/10/2008 4:46:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Am I to assume he actually thinks that lends weight and credibility to his arguments? How silly. Perhaps someone of his intellect would buy into it, but of course nobody with an IQ greater than double digits will be impressed.


2,274 posted on 04/10/2008 4:51:02 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

But he claims to be MENSA material!


2,275 posted on 04/10/2008 4:59:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SkyPilot; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Elsie; MHGinTN
Frustrating, isn't it? Sort of like debating a three year old.

Three year-olds are more reasonable. Two year-olds are almost as frustratng as some Mormons

2,276 posted on 04/10/2008 5:00:18 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SkyPilot; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; Osage Orange; metmom; bonfire; All
The following is an excerpt from a message I had sent to greyfoxx... but the more I thought about it, the more it seemed appropriate to post it here after all.

You may have heard this elsewhere... I have no doubts that this probably has occurred to others as well... but it is something that occurred to me spontaneously, so to speak.

The main thing that convinced me that mormonism was false was when I took notice of the fact that the Book of Mormon is written with Thee’s, and Thou’s, and Begat’s, etc etc. The same sort of lingua which one encounters in a King James Bible. What struck me as odd was the realization that the Bible was written in that manner because in the time of King James everyone spoke that way. That is how English was spoken in that age. However, the Book of Mormon also is written in that form of English, when at the time the Book of Mormon was written English was NOT spoken in that manner, and in fact was much more like we speak it today.

So it occurred to me to wonder WHY it would be written in that manner. It appears to me that the language of King James era was intentionally used to lend the Book of Mormon a greater appearance of “authority”. An attempt to fool us all into believing it is equal to the Bible by mimicking the speaking style. In order to lend it credibility, a form of deception was used. And in the end, I have a real problem with reconciling the notion that God would resort to deception in order to further his goals. Deception is a tool of the other guy.

2,277 posted on 04/10/2008 5:03:46 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: MHGinTN

ROFL. Not much chance of that if he actually believes a condescending attitude adds weight to his arguments.


2,278 posted on 04/10/2008 5:05:05 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: metmom
So then, why doesn’t someone set up a religion where one woman can have many husbands? That would balance the whole thing out.

Because as many women have learned; one husband is sometimes one too many. LOL!
2,279 posted on 04/10/2008 5:08:23 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: Caramelgal

I think it is safe to say that the reverse would be true as well. This is one of the things I always wondered about those crazy muslims who blow themselves up expecting to go to Heaven and have 70 virgins waiting for them. 70 wives? Sounsd like anything BUT heaven to me.


2,280 posted on 04/10/2008 5:18:00 PM PDT by McCoMo
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