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1 posted on 04/05/2008 8:46:01 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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Biofuels have become such a disaster the greens are now disavowing that they had anything to do with it.


2 posted on 04/05/2008 8:48:22 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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You realize that people don’t care. Greenies say that starvation and high food prices are tall tales told by deniers.

Maybe mass starvation is a means their ends.


3 posted on 04/05/2008 8:49:41 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: America is the greatest country on the earth, Help me bring change.)
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To: Dan Evans
There is NO “law” of unintended consequences. - the phrase must have been uttered by a time traveler or something...
4 posted on 04/05/2008 8:50:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (The new Wall Street game: Privatize profits and socialize losses.Freeper Mad_Tom_Rackham)
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To: Dan Evans

Duh, alert.

Of course we will pretty soon get all the closet Freeper socialists blasting Big Oil chiming in.

Sad.

We need to drill, mine, and fiss. The only solution this side of a full blown economic depression to get energy prices properly aligned.


5 posted on 04/05/2008 8:50:44 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar & we can join OPEC!!! || Write in Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: Dan Evans; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views

6 posted on 04/05/2008 8:52:38 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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Doesn’t the federal government usually cause recessions and even the Great Depression? Smoot-Halley comes to mind.

That’s because the morons we elect have no clue about economics and can be relied upon to do exactly the wrong thing when the typical capitalist system booms and busts occur. The Socialists running for office would have this same government in charge of the economy, proving that they always make the cure worse than the disease.


8 posted on 04/05/2008 8:57:57 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Let me see, who was it that made a major issue about us being "addicted to oil?"

And who has done Zip, Zero, Nada to forcefully push (like he did for amnesty) for exploration and drilling--including caving to his moronic brother in Florida over drilling off the coast of same?

And who was it that signed one of the worst bills during his administration--and that's going some, considering other whoppers such as No Child Left Behind, Prescription Drum, CFL Lightbulb Mandate, etc., etc.

God, is it January yet????

PS Yes, I voted for him twice. Well actually once and once against John "The Snake" Kerry.

getusedtoit

"That's right, y'all I'm a "Compassionate Conservative" and those who were fooled into thinking aw was the real deal, well tee hee, better luck with Juan McCain.

10 posted on 04/05/2008 9:01:15 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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Have you ever been fissed off? (you’ll find it in the thread)


12 posted on 04/05/2008 9:03:57 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Out of the dung of adversity, spring the seeds of opportunity! America will always be exceptional!!!)
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In the pantheon of well-intentioned governmental leftist policies gone awry . . .

There, fixed it.

16 posted on 04/05/2008 9:43:47 AM PDT by Hoodat (Bull Moose Party Member)
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Fuel or Folly?

Complete unadulterated, uneconomic and underreported FOLLY!

17 posted on 04/05/2008 9:50:03 AM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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The motto among both Democrats and Republicans on this issue seems to be "If it sounds good, push it," and a gullible public — seduced by climate change hysteria and a "Going Green!" advertising onslaught — is buying into it.

While the search for alternatives to fossil fuels, and in particular the dependence upon foreign sources thereof, is laudable, future avenues must be considered more carefully. As the looming ethanol disaster has demonstrated, yet again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Get over it, fossil fuels is a boon to mankind. We need to keep on drilling further and deeper in order to fuel our ever expanding economy.

I am invested/investing in Schlumberger, Transocean, Noble, Diamond Offshore Drilling, National Oil Well Varco, etc.


19 posted on 04/05/2008 10:03:01 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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My very own daughter (who I am very proud of), when informed of this article, replied, “The answer is Nuclear Energy.” Smart girl.


21 posted on 04/05/2008 10:30:42 AM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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First, the raw commodity price of food averages about 20% of the retail cost. 80% of what we spend at the grocery is attributable to processing, packaging, transportation, marketing, etc. The news media will not report this; it will, instead, blame the entire rise of food prices on biofuels. But that doesn't make it so.

Secondly, there is rapidly increasing demand for food from India, China, and other economic bright spots around the world. One of the first things formerly poor people do as they work their way up the ladder is start eating better. Increased international demand is a huge cost driver. But the media will not usually report that either. It's easier to bash biofuels.

Third, ethanol last year met virtually the entire increase in U.S. gasoline demand. One current estimate is that gasoline prices would be 15% higher without ethanol. Conclusion: the average consumer is probably saving more at the gas pump than he is paying in higher food costs. But -- you guessed it -- the media won't report that either. Both food and fuel are rising, so the geniuses of the Fourth Estate will report it as a double crisis rather than observing that BTUs and calories are fungible and that there is an offset for consumers, who by and large are buying both.

22 posted on 04/05/2008 10:37:20 AM PDT by sphinx
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Let's hope that such “news” makes it to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, or respectively into their brains.
Fabricating laws to use staggering amounts of ethanol by 2020 and then leave for winter break is mind boggling.
There is environmental damage in the form of fertilizer run offs into the Mississippi and Gulf creating dead zones the size of Connecticut and Delaware together as Investor's Business Daily states.
It takes 4000 gallons of fresh water per acre per day to replace evaporation in a corn field.
Each acre requires about 130 pounds of nitrogen and 55 pounds of phosphorous, there is energy for plowing, harvesting, then refining the crop, which takes 1 million gallons per refinery per day.
In the final stage this product has to be hauled by truck or rail as it is corrosive and can not be piped, but then gives drivers 20-30% less mileage.
Ethanol production is subsidized to the tune of $7 billions per year.
Crops are not raised for food, therefore drive up food prices yes, world wide.
Democrat politicians, to capture voters in farm states, went with ethanol while making food scarce, therefore causing 25% food price increases, reducing purchasing power, reflecting in stagnation along with those feared job lay off's.
A huge wealth transfer to farm states, to garner their votes. Happy motoring.
P.S. Don't hope for a correction from Pelosi or Reid.
However... your vote has consequences.
27 posted on 04/05/2008 11:12:54 AM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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What makes the author think the consequences were unintended?


49 posted on 04/06/2008 9:27:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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