[AndyJackson]

Any more facts that you want to use to embarrass yourself with?

We knew that fact too. The problem is that most of us know what the word "force" means. You would like to portray this as "voluntary" compliance, but there is nothing voluntary about this.

[TigersEye]

I thought, by law, minors couldn’t voluntarily do anything in a legal sense. Thus the legal distinction “minor.” ???