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The School Crotch Inspector - Fighting the Advil menace, one strip search at a time
Reason ^ | April 2, 2008 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 04/02/2008 3:39:20 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: metmom; Twink
Squirrel is good, especially in stew....

Liberal on a spit roasting over mesquite charcoal is good too! Although some say the meat is too tough and full of gristle.

361 posted on 04/04/2008 7:50:29 AM PDT by 50mm (To be, or not to be--that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer.....)
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To: pandoraou812
some states just don't have the food I am used too lmao!

Yeah, those states use actual food in their cooking... :^)

362 posted on 04/04/2008 7:55:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Dan Evans
You mean it's okay that they're dimwits?

Lackluster SAT scores is not indicative of a dimwit.

SAT scores are also a pretty good proxy for IQ.

No, it absolutely isn't, nor was it ever meant to be. It was only ever meant to be a predictor of how someone might do his or her freshman year in college.

363 posted on 04/04/2008 8:05:58 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen
Read the case and get back to me.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting reading. However, nothing there changes the basic facts of this case; your link simply gave more detail about the basics we already knew: the second girl was implicated on nothing but the word of the first girl---who sounded even more like a troublemaker than I thought she was---and nothing more. We return to where we began: from uncorroborated accusation to strip search. I find it absolutely appalling you think there is nothing wrong with that. Fundamentally, this is no different from the cops giving you the commander-one-hander because some random passer-by on the street fingered you as a drug mule. I doubt you would be okay with that if it happened to you.

364 posted on 04/04/2008 8:23:44 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen
By the way, her friend Marissa was searched exactly the same way. Certainly, her mind and innocence was raped and the effects would be long lasting. Why isn't she suing? Why didn't we read anything about her trauma?

Maybe Marissa comes from a broken home; maybe Marissa doesn't have anyone at home who would stand up for her; maybe Marissa has a couple of chuckleheads for parents who don't understand that her rights were violated; mabye Marissa's parents are just like you---they think it's perfectly okay if their kid was strip-searched at school. After all, there are some really sick people out there.

365 posted on 04/04/2008 8:30:16 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I like the cut of you jib, Hemingway! Cutting through the Bravo Sierra is your strong point!


366 posted on 04/04/2008 8:35:14 AM PDT by 50mm (To be, or not to be--that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer.....)
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To: 50mm
I like the cut of you jib, Hemingway! Cutting through the Bravo Sierra is your strong point!

Back at you, 'cuz. We fight the good fight, one battle at a time.

367 posted on 04/04/2008 8:50:10 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: 50mm

Good picture!


368 posted on 04/04/2008 9:14:10 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Back at you, 'cuz.

Not a cuz, just from a military family, hence the familiarity with the lingo. Father was an Air Force fighter pilot, older brother Naval Reserve, lots of uncles and cousins sprinkled in all the services and wars -WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf War. I do work with the military as part of my civilian job, but can't tell you how because it "wouldn't be prudent."

369 posted on 04/04/2008 9:22:17 AM PDT by 50mm (To be, or not to be--that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer.....)
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To: pandoraou812

The pictures are just a goof off from last night. I’ll post better ones later. New tag.


370 posted on 04/04/2008 9:26:21 AM PDT by 50mm (I 'll not budge an inch!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"SAT scores are also a pretty good proxy for IQ."
No, it absolutely isn't,

Yes. The correlation is fairly strong. About 80 to 90 percent. It isn't just one study that shows this.

SAT IQ conversions

Maybe the SAT wasn't intended to be a proxy for IQ but so what, it is.

Generally speaking, half of public school teachers are dimwits. In Philadelphia half of public school teachers failed the state teaching test but they are still employed as teachers.

371 posted on 04/04/2008 9:49:02 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Clintonfatigued
What will they do next, strip searches for M & M’s?

Given the current hysteria over obesity and junk food, do you really think that won't happen?

372 posted on 04/04/2008 9:53:53 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: thundrey
It’s even more OTT however, to suggest that she was the victim of paedophile rape...

Sexual abuse of kids by women is more common than you may think.

373 posted on 04/04/2008 9:56:22 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Dan Evans

Okay, let’s compromise-—I’ll expand my definition of dimwit to include anyone who continues to insist that performance on a standardized test indicates anything other than a minimal amount of proficiency at doing what the standardized test was designed to test. Next up: good MCAS scores mean a lifetime batting average of .350 or better.


374 posted on 04/04/2008 10:00:03 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen
Anyone who gives or sells illegal drugs to my children is in for a world of hurt.

You DO know that ibuprofen is not illegal, don't you? Or are you saying that your neighbourhood pharmacist is in for a world of hurt?

375 posted on 04/04/2008 10:08:50 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Clintonfatigued
What will they do next, strip searches for M & M’s?

Melts in your mouth, not in your...

Nevermind.

376 posted on 04/04/2008 10:09:00 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Darren McCarty
I really did not want to have to go to the school office to take a hit if I'm out on the practice football fields 1/2 mile away. Technically, I could have been suspended for 10 days for this. It's a complete Charlie Foxtrot.

I swear the new policies of keeping meds in the school office are going to kill someone if they haven't already. When I was in school there were no rules of any kind about meds- it was understood that any medication, prescribed or OTC, was the responsibility of the student taking it.

377 posted on 04/04/2008 10:17:38 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: 50mm
I'd take the assault rap. It would be worth it

So would I, just for the pleasure of hearing the Crown declare, "We are withdrawing the charge as there are no reasonable prospects for conviction."

378 posted on 04/04/2008 10:21:50 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: 50mm

It’s got to be full of gristle. Liberals are the most sour, bitter, angry people I’ve met. Of course they’d be tough and chewy.


379 posted on 04/04/2008 10:27:37 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: John O
Unlawful search and seizure. 4th Ammendment. Discussed up thread. Even children are persons.

My kids are citizens of this country. The Constitution applies to them as well as any one.

I'd like to see in the Constitution where there are exemptions from our rights based on age or what educational establishment they are attending.

Surely if the Framers though anyone under the age of 18 didn't have any rights, they would have spelled that out.

Just because some addled brained judge somewhere decides that being in a public school automatically implies forfeiture of one's Constitutional rights, doesn't make it so.

There are no exemptions for people based in age from the rights afforded us in the Constitution.

380 posted on 04/04/2008 10:33:59 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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