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The School Crotch Inspector - Fighting the Advil menace, one strip search at a time
Reason ^ | April 2, 2008 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 04/02/2008 3:39:20 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: 50mm
What if the uncorroborated accusation by druggie Marissa had been that Savana had put Advil in a personal cavity. Would you be okay with a cavity search in that case?

Of course not. What sort of society have we become if an uncorroborated accusation can lead directly to a cavity search?

141 posted on 04/03/2008 11:16:15 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

The question was for RP. I pinged you.


142 posted on 04/03/2008 11:18:07 AM PDT by 50mm (I love the smell of napalm in the morning....It smells like victory!)
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To: 50mm
The question was for RP. I pinged you.

Roger that. I'm sure Bob would be totally cool with it, though.

143 posted on 04/03/2008 11:20:11 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Roger that. I'm sure Bob would be totally cool with it, though.

We'll see about RP. I wouldn't. See post 140.

144 posted on 04/03/2008 11:22:35 AM PDT by 50mm (I love the smell of napalm in the morning....It smells like victory!)
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To: AndyJackson

“But if your civil liberties are not safe in the public commons what will protect your civil liberties on your own property? “

The Second Ammendment grants you citizenship...
It is absence a man becomes a Subject to the state.


145 posted on 04/03/2008 11:25:10 AM PDT by mo
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To: mo

oops!

IN its absence man becomes a Subject to the state...

Ask any Brit....they’re clearly, by virtue of their gun laws and hypersurveillance of one another, Her Royal Majesty’s Subjects.


146 posted on 04/03/2008 11:27:16 AM PDT by mo
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To: 50mm

“I’d take the assault rap. It would be worth it. “

Ask for a jury trial, I for one would not convict you.


147 posted on 04/03/2008 11:29:45 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
Ask for a jury trial, I for one would not convict you.

Mindreader!

148 posted on 04/03/2008 11:30:51 AM PDT by 50mm (I love the smell of napalm in the morning....It smells like victory!)
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To: 50mm

Why do girls/women generally take advil? Isn’t it frequently for pain caused by their period? So this girl is supposed to be stashing advil in her crotch while she’s on her period and the principal then expects her to consume the advil? I don’t mean to be offensive here but this is amazing.

Not only is this school run by child molesters but its run by stupid socialists. No wonder so many children are failing to graduate from high school.


149 posted on 04/03/2008 11:33:40 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: AndyJackson

While I understand YOUR sentiment for not “copping out” on keeping our freedoms in our public squares and institutions, I still don’t want the experiment to fight the system taking place on MY kids. (Hence I homeschool.)


150 posted on 04/03/2008 11:40:31 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: driftdiver
Why do girls/women generally take advil? Isn’t it frequently for pain caused by their period? So this girl is supposed to be stashing advil in her crotch while she’s on her period and the principal then expects her to consume the advil? I don’t mean to be offensive here but this is amazing.

Most schools require a note from the doctor to allow even nonprescription medication. That's beside the point. They still shouldn't search based on uncorroborated accusations.

151 posted on 04/03/2008 11:42:15 AM PDT by 50mm (I love the smell of napalm in the morning....It smells like victory!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
That's never going to happen. Face it.

If people take their kids out of public schools and put them in private school or home school, the public schools will have to shut down. In some states, there are counties that don't have public schools. If people there can't afford private schooling the county gives them a voucher to attend a private school.

152 posted on 04/03/2008 11:58:05 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: robertpaulsen
...you'd just shrug your shoulders and say, "That's the price we pay for freedom"?

Why not? Why not have freedom as opposed to a police state? Why get kids acclimated to gestapo tactics when they should be taught to appreciate the bill of rights? Doesn't freedom mean anything to you? Do you think freedom is some abstract thing that we should do without for the sake of "safety"?

153 posted on 04/03/2008 12:03:44 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
If people take their kids out of public schools and put them in private school or home school, the public schools will have to shut down.

OR spend their alloted dollars on other sorts of Bravo Sierra. I understand the theory, I just don't see it happening in reality any time soon. Perhaps I'm being too myopic, however---I do live in Massachusetts, after all, the bastion of the public school system mentality.

154 posted on 04/03/2008 12:06:00 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: microgood; Gorzaloon

Nope. Boiling oil after a nice tarring and feathering. Low cholesterol oil, of course.


155 posted on 04/03/2008 12:18:52 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Dan Evans

Everyone should be able to deduct from their taxes, up to the amount spent per pupil in public school, the cost of the schooling of their choice.


156 posted on 04/03/2008 12:20:42 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: robertpaulsen
My question stands - what if the search had turned up drugs?

Then they would have turned up drugs. So what? They were looking for an ADVIL tablet.

You think this is necessary? These kids are going to leave school thinking that strip searches of citizens are perfectly fine. What kind of country do you want America to become?

157 posted on 04/03/2008 12:21:14 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Homos don't frighten me. Not in the least.

What a stupid thing to say. We are talking about homosexuals having access to children. Are you telling me that you would have no problem with a homosexual tending to your kid in a locker room or on an overnight camping trip?

158 posted on 04/03/2008 12:29:48 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I know people who homeschool who are complete dimwits; they have no business at all educating a dog, let alone their own children.

But these people will only fail at educating their own kids, not other people's children. Public schools systems have become so corrupt and dysfunctional that most public school teachers fall into the "dimwit' category.

159 posted on 04/03/2008 12:33:31 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"An uncorroborated accusation from an unreliable source already in trouble with authorities .... Possession of Advil is now treated"

Advil Schmadvil. Leave it out of your argument. It could have been cocaine and you're saying she shouldn't have been searched based on the above. Fine.

I'm simply saying that decision would leave little Miss Drug Dealer in business and open up the school for future lawsuits. (You were told she was dealing drugs and you did nothing? You didn't even search her?)

160 posted on 04/03/2008 12:39:41 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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