[xjcsa]

Vote for McCain and hope he rises to the occasion on some important issuers. Or don't, and hope the ensuing all-Dem all-the-time nightmare produces a Reaganesque reactionary hero years down the road, and that the Dem damage hasn't been irreparable. I'm voting for McCain.

First of all, the rage on this thread seems directed at McCain detractors, not McCain. That said, I mostly agree with your characterization of the choice, with the added hope given a McCain loss that conservatives in Congress will feel freer to fight against the President's agenda if that President has a (D) after their name. I know it's a gamble, and I think smart conservatives can come down on either side. I am not voting for McCain, but I can respect your reasoning for voting for him.

[CottonBall]

That said, I mostly agree with your characterization of the choice, with the added hope given a McCain loss that conservatives in Congress will feel freer to fight against the President's agenda if that President has a (D) after their name.

Exacly. Like the numerous Senators that followed Bush over the perverbial cliff when he was pushing amnesty. Likely, many would have NOT followed that liberal agenda if it came from a Democrat president. But, at the very least, when the House Republicans balked at backing it, Bush and Rove villified them. McCain would do much more, since he is a much nastier person. At least with a Democrat in the WH, the conservatives in congress won't be attacked by their own party for sticking to principles.