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To: Eaker

That’s just it. The Glock trigger can be depressed and the gun fired without having a finger on the trigger. They have discharged when being forced into a tight (new) holster and they can also discharge in purses or handbags where a lipstick case or a pen can work its way into the trigger guard and press on the trigger. I’ve seen several reports of such NDs with Glocks. I refuse to have one. Better to have no safety at all than a stupid safety.


45 posted on 03/23/2008 6:40:52 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: Kirkwood

So, how does that differ from a standard revolver?


49 posted on 03/23/2008 6:44:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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To: Kirkwood

So you would never own a revolver either?

Putting an unholstered gun in a purse or bag is the NEGLIGENCE!

That is why some of us can carry a Glock safely and the negligent can’t.


51 posted on 03/23/2008 6:44:55 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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To: Kirkwood

I have heard of “Glock leg”.
I wouldn’t own one, ever.


52 posted on 03/23/2008 6:44:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kirkwood

A big difference between the GLOCK, XD, or ParaOrdinance LDA and a revolver is: the hammer of the revolver is not cocked. The hammer of the others is partially cocked, but not enough, in theory, to detonate the primer.

Basic idea: In the absence of a separate safety, the harder you have to pull on a trigger, the less likely you are to have a negligent discharge.

For purposes of argument, let us say that it is 1/3rd cocked. The trigger on these others normally pull with about 5 lbs pressure. The revolver trigger has to fully cock the hammer, and so takes 8 to 11 lbs to fully cock. The Glock has a NY Trigger option that pushes the trigger pull up to 8 lbs.

I have a Cobra Arms derringer in .38 Special, and it has a 14 pound trigger. With no trigger guard, that is just about adequate. Fortunately, it sits safe in my safe, empty.

I had my ND when I was 20, with a revolver with a 12 lb trigger. It is not the kind of thing you ever want to repeat.


76 posted on 03/23/2008 6:55:58 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: Kirkwood
I’ve seen several reports of such NDs with Glocks. I refuse to have one. Better to have no safety at all than a stupid safety.

Yup. Worthless pieces of used food. The proper flight deck weapon is a good quality 1911-pattern .45 in Condition 3 (full mag, empty chamber.)

-ccm

144 posted on 03/23/2008 8:08:13 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Kirkwood
The Glock trigger can be depressed and the gun fired without having a finger on the trigger.

As can any revolver.

Interestingly, the gun in this case was an HK USP. 40.

You can hate on Glocks all you want, but whatever you do don't shoot one, because you'll ditch that Beretta in a heartbeat.

240 posted on 03/27/2008 8:34:43 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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