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Desalination gets a serious look [Nevada governor says he wants Las Vegas to use desalination]
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Mar 21, 2008 | Phoebe Sweet

Posted on 03/22/2008 10:27:04 PM PDT by grundle

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1 posted on 03/22/2008 10:27:06 PM PDT by grundle
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To: ckilmer; TheDon; ZGuy

Ping!


2 posted on 03/22/2008 10:28:36 PM PDT by grundle
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To: Monkey Face

drip-ping


3 posted on 03/22/2008 10:33:26 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: grundle
Not a chance.

Lake Powell is up 50 ft., Lake Mead 10ft. so far this year.

yitbos

4 posted on 03/22/2008 10:35:19 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: grundle

“Environmental groups have rallied against the plant, which has been in the works since before 2000. Opponents complain the plant will be an eyesore”

Greenies or just NIMBYs?

They have no problem with burning Utah coal polluting Utah air and using Utah water for a massive (and gasp, coal powered) power plant in Utah where the bulk of the power goes to SoCal.

It’s going to get a lot more ugly before it gets any better.


5 posted on 03/22/2008 10:38:36 PM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: grundle

No mention of cogeneration? There are beautiful systems in place throughout the world where nuclear power generation and desalination are combined into one efficient, continuous process.


6 posted on 03/22/2008 10:45:50 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: ASOC

I could see this happening in Mexico...and pumping the water north...maybe even Phoenix might want to get into this deal and divide the costs by 50 percent. The amusing thing...is that this type of treatment works 100 percent of the time but there is this slightly different taste to it...and I’m guessing everyone will switch over bottled water for daily consumption (from the beautiful glaciers of Arkansas). You can also figure that the cost of water will go up by double...which means the extra cost and the water you bought...is literally being flushed down the toilet or goes down the bathtub drain.


7 posted on 03/22/2008 10:46:44 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: grundle

How will they dispose of the salt?


8 posted on 03/22/2008 10:52:55 PM PDT by Clive
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To: pepsionice

The Sea of Cotez already has at least two plants now.

Combined with a brine extraction/solar power the water is almost a side product. The pumping and pipelines would cost as much as the plants - but they could be solar powered.

Guess all those Old Farts that moved to Las Vegas and SoAz will have to move elsewhere.


9 posted on 03/22/2008 10:55:02 PM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: grundle

Ever heard of DSRO?


10 posted on 03/22/2008 11:37:27 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: grundle

Nevada could get ocean water right to their door — by having a canal from the Gulf of California to Death Valley. Instead of that valley being below sea level, it would be an inland sea — kept filled by inflowing seawater.


11 posted on 03/22/2008 11:48:37 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: grundle

it turns out that the amount of energy required to desalinate seawater is the same as the amount of energy needed to pump an equal volume of rain water up 2000 ft. In other words, flood waters at St. Louis (elev. 1000 ft) could be pumped as high as Las Vegas (elev. 3000 ft). This seems more environmentally friendly than a coastal desalination plant.


12 posted on 03/22/2008 11:54:57 PM PDT by 1955Ford
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To: Clive

They usually put the salt back in the ocean.


13 posted on 03/23/2008 12:20:46 AM PDT by grundle
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To: timer

I never heard those exact 4 initials. Do you mean nuclear? Because I am in favor of that.


14 posted on 03/23/2008 12:22:03 AM PDT by grundle
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To: 1955Ford

If your idea is better, then they should do it.


15 posted on 03/23/2008 12:22:52 AM PDT by grundle
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To: M203M4

Japan has nuclear desalination. I think it’s a great idea.


16 posted on 03/23/2008 12:23:23 AM PDT by grundle
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To: Solitar

The inflow of water would also be capable of generating a lot of electricity.


17 posted on 03/23/2008 12:26:42 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: grundle
grundle wrote:
"They usually put the salt back in the ocean"

There are rules about that.

The brine effluent can increase local salinity to levels toxic to marine life.

The best solution would be to pair the desalination plant with a nuclear power plant and mix the effluent with the return flow of the nuke's primary coolant water.

18 posted on 03/23/2008 4:33:08 AM PDT by Clive
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How do you then clean up the piped in Mississippi River water and what do you do with the treatment plant effluent.

Perhaps ship it to Utah?

19 posted on 03/23/2008 4:38:41 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

“Mortons” has the infrastructure in place for that problem


20 posted on 03/23/2008 4:53:04 AM PDT by Billg64 (LOL ROFL Senator Mccain for what????)
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