[William Tell]

7mmMag@LeftCoast said: "How the heck would I know, the man is dead."

Then stop quoting him telling us about "the strongest reason" as support for your statement that there is only one reason.

When a person tells you what he thinks is the strongest reason, it in no way indicates that there is only one reason. You have no justification from Jefferson for your statement that "the right to bear arms has NOTHING to do with the wilderness or wild animals."

Nothing Jefferson has said suggests that self-defense is not included in "the right of the people to keep and bear arms".

[7mmMag@LeftCoast]

Apparently you do not fully appreciate the reason for or the reasoning of the Founding Fathers in the writing of the Second Amendment or you are just f’ing with me. But at least you are on the side that supports the Right to keep and bear arms and that will just have to be good enough for now.

Besides protecting yourself from tyranny IS self defense.

[robertpaulsen]

"Nothing Jefferson has said suggests that self-defense is not included in "the right of the people to keep and bear arms"."

If self defense was part of the second amendment right, the why wasn't the right protected for women and children? Foreign visitors? The Indians?